Comments Thread For: The Beltline: Would the chronically cautious Wladimir Klitschko really risk returning to the ring?

[BritJimbo]

Somewhere in the world is a boxer with that name

I remember an article in KO back in the 80s which mentioned two African boxers, one named Superhuman Power and another named Jukebox Timebomb.

Super Human Power apparently lost a decision to **** Tiger back in the 50s, proving he was human after all.

[BritJimbo]

I remember an article in KO back in the 80s which mentioned two African boxers, one named Superhuman Power and another named Jukebox Timebomb.

Super Human Power apparently lost a decision to **** Tiger back in the 50s, proving he was human after all.

I can't believe BoxingScene censored ****.

[BritJimbo]

And I mentioned an opponent, perhaps the ONLY opponent, that would guarantee a return to the boxing ring for Klitschko. And it's also a completely factual alternative description of said individual, since the censorship on this site is ridiculous. I made no opinions one way or the other on anything political, unlike many others, and you don't chime in when there's blatant political discussion. Perhaps you're a stooge for fascism. Either way, get back in your corner and mind your own business.

That makes perfect sense, thank you for this.

[BritJimbo]

'I think that sounds like selective memory. The K brothers beat everyone out there and dominated for so long, so in retrospect it might seem weak. I remember watching Vitali fight Lennox Lewis and getting the better of him in most exchanges until the fight was stopped on cuts. Lennox knew he was lucky to escape the beating of his life. Right there and then I knew that Lennox would never, ever again step foot inside the ring with Vitali. Of course, he retired rather than face Vitali again and get knocked out in a rematch'.

That definitely sounds like selective memory, BrankoB. You are right that when Vitali fought Lennox Lewis he was getting the better of him in most exchanges until Lennox landed one of the hardest punches I've ever seen in my life. I will never know how Vitali took that uppercut. Shortly after that the fight was stopped on cuts because, as the ringside doctor put it, otherwise Vitali's eye & all the jelly around it would've been sloshing around in the ring. He also said that he'd never seen anything more horrific than Vitali's eye & he'd served as a medic in 'Nam!

Lennox retired because he'd had enough. He always said he didn't want to make the same mistakes other champions had. Listen today to Lennox speaking, then listen to (say) Holyfield, Bowe or Toney speaking & you can hear that he made a good choice.

I was listening to Chris Mannix podcast...he said he didn't think Vlad would get hurt against either Fury or Dubois...debatable with Fury, but at this point Dubois would really hurt Vlad.

Lennox quit at the perfect time.

[BritJimbo]

I do remember that uppercut and I also remember that Vitali took it well. That would have been disheartening to Lennox. I also agree that cut was very nasty. Not dis*****g any of that. One punch does not change the fact that Vitali was more than Lennox's equal based on what we saw in that fight.

My point was that the previous poster said the K brothers were fighting in an era that was weak and Lennox Lewis was definitely not weak. He was one of the best heavyweight champions in a very, very long time who would have been competitive with anyone in history and Vitali was getting the better of him. That is all.

The 90s division was a brutal one - Lennox, Evander, Bowe, Foreman, Moorer, McCall, Ruddock, Tyson, Douglas, Morrison, Mercer, Ibeabuchi, Witherspoon, even guys like Bruno, Zolkin, Tony Tubbs, Bert Cooper, Chris Byrd (who was more successful after 99)

From 2005-2015, the best US heavies were Tony Thompson, Eddie Chambers, Chris Arreola...apart from Bert Cooper (and Bert would have a good shot against them), I wouldn't pick any of these guys against the 90s crew.

Not saying that the K bros wouldnt have had success, but when you really look at it, it was such a weak era for them.

[BritJimbo]

The 90s division was a brutal one - Lennox, Evander, Bowe, Foreman, Moorer, McCall, Ruddock, Tyson, Douglas, Morrison, Mercer, Ibeabuchi, Witherspoon, even guys like Bruno, Zolkin, Tony Tubbs, Bert Cooper, Chris Byrd (who was more successful after 99)

From 2005-2015, the best US heavies were Tony Thompson, Eddie Chambers, Chris Arreola...apart from Bert Cooper (and Bert would have a good shot against them), I wouldn't pick any of these guys against the 90s crew.

Not saying that the K bros wouldnt have had success, but when you really look at it, it was such a weak era for them.

Also, Hasim Rahman, Oleg Maskaev, and Corrie Sanders

[1Eriugenus]

'I was listening to Chris Mannix podcast...he said he didn't think Vlad would get hurt against either Fury or Dubois...debatable with Fury, but at this point Dubois would really hurt Vlad.'

Yeah, I don't think that makes sense. I'm not a huge fan of DDD but he is 25 & in magnificent physical shape. I think he could badly hurt Vlad now he is well over 40.

Lennox quit at the perfect time.

I just listened to an interview & I'm shocked how articulate, measured & intelligent Lennox was & he didn't slur at all. When you think he had a long amateur career, climaxing with an Olympic Gold & a long professional career in which he fought Holyfield twice, Tyson, Mercer, Vitali, Rahman (twice), McCall (twice), Morrison, Tua, Michael Grant etc it is incredible that he seems cerebrally unscathed. I can only think it is a combination of him getting out at exactly the right time & the way he keeps his brain active by playing chess & reading.

[1Eriugenus]

Richard Ihetu aka D1ck Tiger was one bad MoFo. I think it was the great sports journalist Hugh McIlvanney who said he couldn't understand why Tiger changed his name, since his name was pronounced 'I hit you' which, you'd think, was the best possible name for a boxer!

[1Eriugenus]

Way I'm playing chess tonight I could be brain damaged & I don't even have the excuse of a long ring career!