Comments Thread For: Rafael Espinoza retains belt as Robeisy Ramirez walks away with double vision

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  • A.B Counterhooks
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    #21
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Two time Olympic gold medalist.

    But that hasn’t meant as much in the pros.
    Professional Boxing a whole different game indeed.

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    • macmike100
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      #22
      Originally posted by JonDP

      What part of the tv crew thoroughly going through the video and not finding such a thing you didn’t get?
      Saw what I saw maybe you need glasses.

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        #23
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Two time Olympic gold medalist.

        But that hasn’t meant as much in the pros.
        A few years back I looked at all the Olympic gold medal winners from the last few Olympics (probably 4 or 5). I was shocked to discover how many of them never did anything in the pros - across all weight divisions. Very puzzling.

        It is kind of like American Idol winners never following that win with anything substantial afterwards.

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        • landotter
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          #24
          Legit or not, Ramirez will have a tough time bouncing back from this. Duran took years before anyone saw past the "No Mas" incident, and how long did it take DuBois taking a knee against Joyce to be offset by wins in the ring?

          Espinoza will also get very little bump for the win. He will have to listen to the "Ramirez quit" narrative, not that he MADE him quit.

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          • paulf
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            #25
            Ramirez is old for a little guy. This was kinda do-or-die for him.

            Don't see anyone investing in building him back up. Only option now is to really try to stay in shape, and hope to upset someone looking to use him for an easy W.

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            • BustedKnuckles
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              #26
              Originally posted by MulaKO

              You mean forearm
              Thats what I saw but that won’t give you double vision
              I didnt read all the comments yet, but the left elbow was early in the 5th. I saw when it happened, before they ever mentioned it. Right after that you saw a whitish welt/scratch above Ramirez right eye for the rest of the round.

              I cant say that gave him double or not, but the elbow happened.

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              • MulaKO
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                #27
                Originally posted by BustedKnuckles

                I didnt read all the comments yet, but the left elbow was early in the 5th. I saw when it happened, before they ever mentioned it. Right after that you saw a whitish welt/scratch above Ramirez right eye for the rest of the round.

                I cant say that gave him double or not, but the elbow happened.
                Well at my home they first said it was an elbow and once they showed different angles it was determined that it was not an elbow but a forearm in the 5th round
                Then saw the same thing online where people were arguing that it was an elbow when in fact the replay showed it definitely wasn’t and at most a scraping of the forearm

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                • hitmanjosh
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                  #28
                  Rafael Espinoza said I bet Naoya Inoue won't call my name!

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by hitmanjosh
                    Rafael Espinoza said I bet Naoya Inoue won't call my name!

                    Ngl, It would be real interesting to see how someone as skilled as Naoya deals with such physical disadvantages at 126. Cant wait for the Monster to make that move.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by CarlW

                      I thought it was low class to judge Ramirez quitting as he did without knowing the facts. How dumb was Kriegel citing the courage of the great Israel Vazquez in this context? Did he forget how the first Marquez/Vazquez fight ended? Was that a permanent black mark on Vazquez?
                      That’s right, Vasquez is now dead after having health problems for 15 years but according to Kriegel that’s what every fighter should do. I know Vazque died of cancer but who knows if it was exasperated by all the other complications.

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