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    Comments Thread For: Lawrence Okolie drops and stops Hussein Muhamed on heavyweight bow

    Lawrence Okolie marked his debut at heavyweight by explosively stopping Germany's Hussein Muhamed inside a round at Wembley Arena
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  • BritJimbo
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    Holy sh-t...he came in at 260! He was a cruiserweight...how can someone eat so much?

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    • low blows
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      #3
      Originally posted by BritJimbo
      Holy sh-t...he came in at 260! He was a cruiserweight...how can someone eat so much?
      Have you seen what he looks like?

      I swear I minimally exercise I have better muscle tone, he looks like ate burgers and pizza to gain weight. He needs to hire a strength and conditioning coach to peel off some of that flab when he steps up to any live opponent.

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        #4
        Originally posted by BritJimbo
        Holy sh-t...he came in at 260! He was a cruiserweight...how can someone eat so much?
        Yesterday there was an article on this site saying he was 206
        Not sure if it was a misprint or what
        He looked like he was induced by pasta , pizza and burgers to get that 260

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          Well... that happened. So he did what someone should against a career journeyman. First fight at a new weight... fine, fine. What is this going to look like against an even legit "B" level talent at above 200?

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            #6
            Looks like a nice layer of fat hiding an HGH Gut to me.That's an outrageous weight gain.

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              #7
              Originally posted by landotter
              Well... that happened. So he did what someone should against a career journeyman. First fight at a new weight... fine, fine. What is this going to look like against an even legit "B" level talent at above 200?
              For $500 , I’ll say ass whooping

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                When a fighter gains masses of weight, like Lawrence Okolie has 'This is in my opinion, due to his body physiologically reacclimatizing to life as a Heavyweight. Okolie most likely was weight draining himself extensively to make the 200 pound Cruiserweight limit, but? Competing in the Heavyweight Division, for the first time in his career there has been no pressure for him to make a weight limit. And this has clearly showed in his most recent fight'.

                I would expect Okolie if he is serious about his Heavyweight campaign, to gradually refine and improve his overall conditioning as a Heavyweight fighter 'Because in reality? Okolie should of only been maybe 10 to 15 pounds heavier than his fight night weight as a Cruiserweight fighter'.

                Note: The modern day Cruiserweight limit is 200 pounds, but initial the weight limit used to be 190 pounds 'This would suggest that, most modern day Cruiserweight fighters are already Heavyweight fighters. Without the pressure of having to make a weight limit, I would imagine that the large majority of fighters are all easily weighing over 200 pounds naturally. The cruiserweight limit was altered in 2003, so pretty much during the latter stages of the 90's Heavyweight era'.

                Okolie looked to be naturally bigger than fighters such as Oleksandr Uysk and David Haye 'When both of those fighters moved up into the Heavyweight Division they never really body built themselves up into being a Heavyweight. Both Uysk and Haye, just trained in a more comfortable state without the pressure of having to make a weight limit. And gradually over time, the Heavyweight training culture added mass and more weight onto their fighting physique's'.

                So, if I was going to critique Lawerence Okolie 'It would be on his approach to his Heavyweight Invasion. Too many fighters in this modern era of boxing, try to play Super Heavyweight fighters at their own game, when in reality? If you are a classical physique style Heavyweight fighter, you need to embrace being that style of fighter'.

                To conclude: Because in my opinion Cruiserweight fighters have attributes and areas of their game, that can give Modern Super Heavyweight fighters big issues 'History has proven that statement correct. The last two elite level cruiserweight fighters to invade the Heavyweight Division, while they were at their absolute peak or very close to are David Haye and Oleksandr Uysk. Both of those fighters were and are a danger to all Heavyweight fighters, David Haye was able to win the WBA Heavyweight title, against Nikola Valuev in a fight where he was being outweighed by 7 stone. And Oleksandr Uysk has became the Undisputed World Heavyweight Champion and beaten the two most dominant elite level Super Heavyweight fighters of this modern era, Anthony Joshua II twice and Tyson Fury I once. Uysk is at matter of days away from his rematch vs Tyson Fury II'.

                For the most part I would rate the Cruiserweight Division, as a more competitive and highly skilled Boxing Division 'At any given time since the conclusion of the 90's Heavyweight boxing era'.

                I would not rate Lawerence Okolie as the same level of threat 'That Oleksandr Uysk or David Haye were during their Heavyweight careers. This is because pound for pound, those two fighters were better athletes and skill for skill superior fighters. But Okolie can still be a big threat at Domestic and European level, fights against Fabio Wardley, David Adeleye and Johnny Fisher is the level of competition were I see Lawerence Okolie being competitive straight away. All of those fights are most likely even fights to call at this stage of their careers' etc.




                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 12-08-2024, 10:17 AM.

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                  Okolie is gangly and has definitely got heavyweight power. He could be a problem at heavyweight.

                  But there's no way he will be able to compete looking like an uncle with a beer belly. Sort yourself out, or your career will be short.

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                    Larry ”Big Baby” Okolie

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