Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Vergil Ortiz vs. Boots Ennis, Benavidez vs. Morrell, memories of Emanuel Steward and the Mike Tyson-Jake Paul fall-out

[Groin Grabber]

They meant enough to bust up Vergil Ortiz and send him to the hospital afterwards. He barely got the decision too and many felt he lost. That didn't happen with Boots who faced an opponent with much better defense than Bohachuk.

They only felt he lost cause of the knockdowns

lmfao yeah Karen's defense is so good he got a loss against a guy making his debut

Booty ennis is garbage

[BrankoB]

Many arguments about who looked worse - Ortiz or Boots. To me they both showed vulnerabilities that were not obvious before. Who looked worse depends on who your horse in the race is and who you would like to win. Purely subjective stuff. There are no objectives measures here until they meet in the ring.

[joseph5620]

This is incorrect. Ortiz won every round besides the rounds he got knocked down in. Bohachuk can crack and he is MUCH better than karen. Tito trinidad used to get knocked down in his fights often too. Ortiz is the best at 147/154 time will tell. Ennis still targeting barrios. That’s says it all. Ortiz jr targeting the top of 154 and booty ennis targeting 135 lb bums. Bread man is clown

Stopped reading after you said this. That's just a blatant lie.

[joseph5620]

Lmfao those flash knockdowns mean nothing. Yall acting like he was hurt

Booty rematched a guy he already beat in boring fashion and looked worse. He's gonna stay at 147 cause he gets beat tf up at 154. That simple boy

They meant enough to bust up Vergil Ortiz and send him to the hospital afterwards. He barely got the decision too and many felt he lost. That didn't happen with Boots who faced an opponent with much better defense than Bohachuk.

[LAchargers373]

Ortiz fought an opponent with no defense and was stopped by Brian Adams. The same Adams that people like you crapped on when Jermall Charlo defended his belt against him. So you can stop with the fake hype of Bohachuk. He dropped Ortiz twice and sent him to the hospital afterwards.

Breadman was spot on. Ortiz looked far worse in his last fight than Boots did and is wasn't because Ortiz fought a great opponent no matter how much you want to overrate him for your agenda.

This is incorrect. Ortiz won every round besides the rounds he got knocked down in. Bohachuk can crack and he is MUCH better than karen. Tito trinidad used to get knocked down in his fights often too. Ortiz is the best at 147/154 time will tell. Ennis still targeting barrios. That’s says it all. Ortiz jr targeting the top of 154 and booty ennis targeting 135 lb bums. Bread man is clown

[boxingitis]

“What we have to realize is that knocking out or dominating an elite level fighter is not easy. And when fighters routinely do it, we need to appreciate it but not expect it to happen every time that scenario comes up. What we see Bam Rodriguez do to ageing fighters is not what every young fighter is capable of. Bam is special. Zepeda is good. There is a difference. “

Great quote and he is spot on. Boxing fans need to develop better discernment…don’t be in a rush to label everyone as special, learn to actually recognize it and savor when it truly comes along. Which realistically isn’t going to be that often.

The difference is SNAC by Victor Conte who works with VADA.

[PBR Streetgang]

Good mailbag. The conversation with Manny is very interesting...I remember all those Kronk fighters representing the gym in the yellow, blue and red colors.

I would love to see that Boot/Ortiz matchup. Both have shown some flaws but ultimately it comes down to matchups and I think En is probably wins that one.

[ShoulderRoll]

“What we have to realize is that knocking out or dominating an elite level fighter is not easy. And when fighters routinely do it, we need to appreciate it but not expect it to happen every time that scenario comes up. What we see Bam Rodriguez do to ageing fighters is not what every young fighter is capable of. Bam is special. Zepeda is good. There is a difference. “

Great quote and he is spot on. Boxing fans need to develop better discernment…don’t be in a rush to label everyone as special, learn to actually recognize it and savor it when it truly comes along. Which realistically isn’t going to be that often.

[boxingitis]

Ennis can't get a fight with Norman, Stanionis (who Virgil did), Barrios, and wont move to fight Vergil who is the the same Network. Hearn is going to keep him safe a while. Ennis doesn't have the power to stop 147s like his last opponent (In 2 fights), let alone the bigger guys at 154.

[Groin Grabber]

Ortiz fought an opponent with no defense and was stopped by Brian Adams. The same Adams that people like you crapped on when Jermall Charlo defended his belt against him. So you can stop with the fake hype of Bohachuk. He dropped Ortiz twice and sent him to the hospital afterwards.

Breadman was spot on. Ortiz looked far worse in his last fight than Boots did and is wasn't because Ortiz fought a great opponent no matter how much you want to overrate him for your agenda.

Lmfao those flash knockdowns mean nothing. Yall acting like he was hurt

Booty rematched a guy he already beat in boring fashion and looked worse. He's gonna stay at 147 cause he gets beat tf up at 154. That simple boy