Fight Results We Need to be Honest About

[PittyPat]

For a change?

Of the fights he actually lost, he deserved to lose:
Mosley (first fight)

I had it for Mosley too?

Hopkins

But that was a stoppage, and I had Oskie losing it anyway.

Mayweather

Ah, now here's where it always gets funky. I've watched that **** goodness knows many times, and I'm not even an Oskie fan, and each time I have it 116-112 for him. There is no way I can ever give Mayweather that fight, and I'm talking from an unbiased POV here (appreciator of both fighters' skills).

Pacquiao

That was a stoppage too, and he was losing every round on my card. What are you getting at with including non-distance fights?

That leaves Trinidad

Most definitely.

and Shane RE as the lone two fights where you can legitimately argue he got robbed.

That was close and not necessarily the biggest robbery of all time, but I could never give Shugs that fight. A bad decision is what I'd call it.

I said "for a change" because getting a bad decision in 3 fights would warrant such a phrase. IMO he was on the end of too many bad decisions, so the Sturm one was pleasant to see (especially because the latter has robbed his fair share of fighters, too).

[javelin_fangs]

haha you have just proved how ****** you really are

To outbox your opponent you have to actually finish the fight. That's why people call one-punch KO power the equalizer. If you don't know that then I don't know what to tell you other than you're the reason Roger Mayweather is always saying "most people don't know **** about boxing."

[PittyPat]

If you get KTFO in a fight then you didn't outbox your opponent.

That doesn't make any sense. Prior to getting stopped, it's perfectly plausible that a fighter can be outboxing his opponent. In both of Taylor's cases, the reason he couldn't punctuate the outboxing of his man (Pavlik II and Froch) was because of his notoriously bad stamina.

To outbox your opponent you have to actually finish the fight.

I highly disagree, but I won't make an issue out of it. It's a Friday, after all.

[The_Demon]

To outbox your opponent you have to actually finish the fight. That's why people call one-punch KO power the equalizer. If you don't know that then I don't know what to tell you other than you're the reason Roger Mayweather is always saying "most people don't know **** about boxing."

pavlik and froch are better boxers than taylor because they ko'd him

haha i had too bring myself down too your level

[The_Demon]

That doesn't make any sense. Prior to getting stopped, it's perfectly plausible that a fighter can be outboxing his opponent. In both of Taylor's cases, the reason he couldn't punctuate the outboxing of his man (Pavlik II and Froch) was because of his notoriously bad stamina.

he doesnt seem too understand the simple concepts of boxing

[javelin_fangs]

dude, stfu, stop trying to act intelligent. you've been sonned on this forum way to many times for you to be talking like you've been through puberty.

And for your ****** ass information, I had Floyd winning that fight. But you won't understand why I responded with what I did and there's a reason for that. Go find yourself a girlfriend. Floyd already has a baby mama.

LOL...Dude you need to get a life.

Every time I post here you go berserk. You really need to learn how to talk to people who disagree with you without going ape****.

[javelin_fangs]

That doesn't make any sense. Prior to getting stopped, it's perfectly plausible that a fighter can be outboxing his opponent. In both of Taylor's cases, the reason he couldn't punctuate the outboxing of his man (Pavlik II and Froch) was because of his notoriously bad stamina.



I highly disagree, but I won't make an issue out of it. It's a Friday, after all.

It is possible to be "outboxing" an opponent before you get KO'd, but if you don't finish the fight well then who cares? If you're fighting a puncher in order to win you need to outbox your opponent right?

Now, if you're Jermain Taylor and you're fight Carl Froch...you know you can "outbox" Froch for a number of rounds. That's obvious. But if you get KO'd can you really say you outboxed him? I mean if you guys think so then Zab Judah "outboxed" Kostya Tszyu. Damien Fuller "outboxed" Diego Corrales.

Taylor is overrated.

[javelin_fangs]

he doesnt seem too understand the simple concepts of boxing

Ok, dude, let me ask you this; where you impressed with Taylor in those fights where he "outboxed" Pavlik and Froch?

[The_Demon]

It is possible to be "outboxing" an opponent before you get KO'd, but if you don't finish the fight well then who cares? If you're fighting a puncher in order to win you need to outbox your opponent right?

Now, if you're Jermain Taylor and you're fight Carl Froch...you know you can "outbox" Froch for a number of rounds. That's obvious. But if you get KO'd can you really say you outboxed him? I mean if you guys think so then Zab Judah "outboxed" Kostya Tszyu. Damien Fuller "outboxed" Diego Corrales.

Taylor is overrated.

you really should have just started a thread saying 'i think taylor is over-rated' as thats your main point here
but fair enough i cant be bothered too argue with you anymore

[The_Demon]

Ok, dude, let me ask you this; where you impressed with Taylor in those fights where he "outboxed" Pavlik and Froch?

ye he knocked pavlik down in the 2nd and should of finished him off
the 2nd fight was close but taylor faded late as he always does and lost a decision
you think taylor is over-rated,thats your opinion
doesnt mean im wrong because i disagree with you bud