Fight Results We Need to be Honest About

[javelin_fangs]

All boxing fans like to bit(h about judges and scoring, but when it comes to a popular/hyped young fighter getting the benefit of a bad decision a lot of fans run and hide.

Look, let's be honest. If we all just admit that Jermain Taylor didn't beat Bernard Hopkins or earn a draw with Winky Wright then what has happened to him in his career makes perfect sense.

The same thing with Oscar De la Hoya-Pernell Whitaker. If we're honest with ourselves and admit that Whitaker beat De la Hoya then De la Hoya's later career results make more sense. If we admit Fernando Vargas really lost to Winky Wright the rest of his career makes sense.

I keep reading that Jermain Taylor is the most experienced fighter in the Super 6 AND has wins over Hopkins. If we're honest and admit that he really lost those fights his losses to Pavlik and Froch make a lot more sense. And the fact that he's likely to loss every fight he has in the Super 6 will further cement that.

[Ray*]

Sturm did beat Oscar etc

[The_Demon]

the things is taylor did beat hopkins

[javelin_fangs]

the things is taylor did beat hopkins

Be honest with yourself man...serious...be honest with yourself. Taylor never beat Hopkins. The powers that be wanted people to believe Taylor was going to be the face of boxing and manufactured two wins over Hopkins. The beating Taylor took in those fights probably ruined him forever though. He never really looked good after the second Hopkins fight though.

[The_Demon]

Be honest with yourself man...serious...be honest with yourself. Taylor never beat Hopkins. The powers that be wanted people to believe Taylor was going to be the face of boxing and manufactured two wins over Hopkins. The beating Taylor took in those fights probably ruined him forever though. He never really looked good after the second Hopkins fight though.

taylor beat hopkins,whether you say he didnt or not

[javelin_fangs]

Sturm did beat Oscar etc

Yeah Sturm beat DLH EASY! Sturm won at least 9 rounds in that fight and it makes sense. Sturm was a better boxer AND bigger. But if a person insists that DLH beat the ultimate boxer, Whitaker, then they can't understand how DLH got outboxed by Sturm.

[rambov]

What about Mosely vs Cotto

[-EAGLE-]

Taylor beat Hopkins 2 times ; I CONFIRM THAT!

Sturm beat Oscar De La Hoya;

Castillo beat Mayweather in 1st fight;

Malignaggi beat Diaz.

[javelin_fangs]

taylor beat hopkins,whether you say he didnt or not

Be honest with yourself. That's all I'm saying. If in doing so you still manage to find a way to think Taylor won those fights then so be it.

But then you can go ahead and wonder how on God's Green Earth Taylor got his a$$ kicked by Pavlik and Froch...two good, but definitely not great fighters.

Think about it. Hopkins is still one of the 5 best P4P fighters in the sport. Neither Pavlik nor Froch have ever been that good. But those guys crushed the guy who you believe beat possibly the best middleweight of the last 40 or 50 years...TWICE.

Like I said, be honest with yourself.

[javelin_fangs]

Taylor beat Hopkins 2 times ; I CONFIRM THAT!

Sturm beat Oscar De La Hoya;

Castillo beat Mayweather in 1st fight;

Malignaggi beat Diaz.

Lol...yeah Castillo beat Mayweather the same way Diaz beat Malignaggi...lol

put that in your pipe and smoke it.