Comments Thread For: Only Canelo Alvarez fight could bring Terence Crawford back into the ring, says Robert Garcia

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Those boys already had the chance , him and Ennis and they both jumped ship. Lol

And what's in it for Crawford ?

Nothing that's what.

Turki was at Ortiz Jr's last fight and stated he wanted to see Bud fight Ortiz Jr next. Ortiz Jr and Oscar said they wanted it, but Bud told Turki that he didn't want to fight anybody else but Ginger. Obviously for the same reason every other fighter wants to fight Ginger, for the $$$$

What's in it for Bud if he fights Ortiz Jr, the other Eastern European fighters or Fundora? Maybe 5 to 10 million dollars and if he beats anyone of them or 2 of them the right to claim that he's the best at 154 because those guys are the best at 154 along with Bud.

If you think that's nothing, cool, but by that same logic there's nothing in it for Ginger to fight Bud. Ginger's at 168 and his last two opponents were his mandatories earning him around $40 million each fight. Ginger has fought everybody he had to fight with the exception of Benavidez, but Ginger too has earned the right to call the shots as he too has taken punches to the face for just as long as Bud and currently has the biggest fan base and draws the biggest PPV sales at freaking $90 a pop without needing a co main event to sell.

Does Ginger need to fight Benavidez, I don't think so, but I'd love to see him fight him for my selfish reasons just like I'd like to see Bud fight Ortiz Jr for my own selfish reasons, knowing that Bud doesn't need to fight him.

Anything else you disagree with or would like to discuss in a respectful manner????

[Mic_Rob]

Had a feeling it might go this way. Don't think Bud has the motivation at this point for a series at 154. Canelo or nothing- disappointing but also understandable from a business and health perspective

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Said it for awhile, Crawford is looking to shock the world and beat Canelo and then retire. He is close to 40 and has nothing left to prove. The Canelo fight is the only matchup that will motivate him to keep going. Massive payday and a chance to shock the world.

Bud is one of the last great fighters IMO. We are seeing a transition in boxing to better matchups for more exciting fights. The best in the sport are all near retirement and there isn't a whole lot coming up to replace them. Crawford is incredibly rare in that he has incredible skill and power, and he also comes to stop guys. These days the top guys are defensive to a fault, they don't want to risk much. Bud is a dying breed.

Been a pleasure watching Bud over the years. If he retires he has more than earned it.

[ptek]

Turki hasn't offered S-hit! Now it's Ginger needing Bud to make bank? Spoken like a true fanboy... Since it is Bud with Turki that bings in the high paydays, why won't Turki guarantee Bud anything more than $4 million to fight one of the champs at 154??

Turki isn't offering American fighters the substantial amounts that you think he is offering fanboy.....

king tutti is correct and once again your wrong plus you got the lines all mixed up.

Yes it's Crawford bringing the big pay day to Canelo via the Saudi Prince. Crawford's his guy , what you finding that hard to comput or what ?

[ptek]

I agree that he should try for the undisputed at 154. That way he would ensure his legacy by being a three division undisputed champion. Now it makes sense why he refused to fight Fundora. None of us really understood what was happening. So it is Canelo or bust. It might be bust, as I remember reading a post a few weeks ago where someone met Canelo though a mutual friend on a golf course and Canelo told them he hated Bud and would never give him the payday.

His legacy is just fine, as for that Canelo on the golf course fantasy, I call bull and smell it a mileaway.

Crawford goner do Canelo worse than Mayweather did and Canelo knows it to.

Hence the 150milly price tag he wants.

[ptek]

I heard ginger say he'd fight Benavidez for $150-200 million, it's on video, it can't be denied. I've yet to hear Ginger asking $150 to fight Bud, only articles that state $150 million is what it would take to fight Bud, but no quotes from Ginger. If you have any links where you hear Ginger asking for $150 million or any articles that actually quote Ginger asking for that figure to fight Bud please provide them. I'm pretty certain you won't find them.

What I did hear from Ginger was that he was open to negotiate with Turki after his fight with Berlanga. Please post a link to Turki claiming that Ginger turned down an offer of $60 mIllion or greater... You claim that Bud brings Turki, well what has Turki offered???

You mention Charlo. Charlo was part of a 3 fight deal Ginger had with PBC. Was Bud with PBC during Ginger's 3 fight deal? NO!

You bring up Munguia and Berlanga. Did Ginger fight them cats to spike PPV sales????? NO! He fought them because they were mandatories and those mandatories paid $40 million each. Is Bud a mandatory? NO!

You call me a fanboy because I state facts??? Silly..... I happen to think Bud is a better boxer and more skilled than Ginger, does that make me a fanboy of Bud???? Ginger has avoided Benavidez, does that make me a fanboy of Benavidez???

Why did Floyd fight Conor??? Wasn't for legacy, it was for the fan base that Conor brought to the table which spiked PPV sales that made Floyd a fortune. We've established that Bud isn't a mandatory nor in the same weight class as Ginger.

What does Bud bring to the table??? Absolutely nothing that benefits Ginger. You say he brings Turki? What substantial amount of money that Ginger doesn't already make fighting mandatories has Turki offered???? He hasn't offered S-hit!

You Say Bud brings his p4p status? if Ginger were to win, his status ain't going up. He's supposed to beat a man 2 weight classes below him. Ginger's status would rise if he beat Benavidez, Bivol, or Beterbiev, not by beating Bud. Bud's the only one who benefits from fighting Ginger, win or lose.

Ginger ain't ducking Bud, but he has ducked Benavidez. Sounds like you're the only fanboy between you and I.

So I'm the second guy on here thing you the same thing.
Canelo was asking 150milly to fight Crawford.
You can find the link on YouTube.
do your own research .

Point being
200milly to fight Benavidez
150milly to fight Crawford

It's a duck easy,
Canelo loves that Chinese Duck Sauce.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

king tutti is correct and once again your wrong plus you got the lines all mixed up.

Yes it's Crawford bringing the big pay day to Canelo via the Saudi Prince. Crawford's his guy , what you finding that hard to comput or what ?

Wrong! Unfortunately Bud's name doesn't bring $$$ to the table. That's why he's wanting to fight Canelo whether Turki's involved or not. Bud's GUARANTEED purse for his last fight, which Turki financed, was only 2.7 million. Canelo's last fight against Berlanga guaranteed him 35 to 40 million dollars.

Your CPU must be over heating or something. I'm sure you believe In is Out and Six is Nine....

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

So I'm the second guy on here thing you the same thing.
Canelo was asking 150milly to fight Crawford.
You can find the link on YouTube.
do your own research .

Point being
200milly to fight Benavidez
150milly to fight Crawford

It's a duck easy,
Canelo loves that Chinese Duck Sauce.

There is no link because it doesn't exist. I can find footage of Ginger asking for 150-200 million to fight Benavidez, but Ginger hasn't given a figure to fight Bud so I can't find any quotes from Ginger or video of him asking for a specific amount.

I can find footage of Ginger stating that he's open to negotiate after his fight with Berlanga, but Turki hasn't offered squat! For as good as Bud is, he doesn't bring in numbers which means he doesn't bring in $$$$

Canelo has ducked Benavidez, but he ain't ducking Bud, that's for sure.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

His legacy is just fine, as for that Canelo on the golf course fantasy, I call bull and smell it a mileaway.

Crawford goner do Canelo worse than Mayweather did and Canelo knows it to.

Hence the 150milly price tag he wants.

Here you go Sleepy Joe, this is how much Turki paid Bud and the fighters on that particular card. The guaranteed purses.... There isn't anything that Bud brings to the table for Ginger to want to fight him. No Title, he's not a mandatory and he doesn't bring numbers to generate big PPV sales...

Turki isn't paying too much more than what a fighter normally gets paid. A little more, but not too much more...

Oh, come back with facts, not uneducated guesses....

https://www.mmafighting.com/2024/8/5...rimov-salaries

[White-Bob]

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Subpar resume is true but how in the world do you call him “a terrible n human being”? Where do you get that malarkey from?

His attitude..demeanor..and ego