I picked the puncher so gonna act he actually won

[IronDanHamza]

You're ranting about this robbery while you bashed everyone who said Loma beat Haney lol

I scored it for Beterbiev. If you're in your feelings so much over that you can block me.

**** this site is feminine.

You are far and beyond the most feminine poster on this site

I didn't even know you weren't female until recently, I assumed that you were until you clarified in a post that you were a male which I found very surprising.

How many people do you have blocked? Over 100? And you've boasted about that fact as well.

Clown.

[The plunger man]

Except he wasn't up by 4 rounds going into the 10th.

At best he didn't get a draw, at best he won the fight, which, he did.

The only clear rounds Bivol won were 1,2,8 and 9.

The clear rounds Beterbeiv won were 3,5,6,11

Every other round you can argue either man won.

I gave Beterbiev - 3,5,6,7,10,11, 12. That's 7 rounds. There is more than an argument for Beterbiev winning those rounds.

In laymans terms; Not a robbery. Not even remotely close to a robbery in fact.

Rounds bivol won 1,2,3,4,8 and 9...my mistake when i said 4 rounds up as I meant 3...I also don't thinks it's a robbery as a round separates both fighters but beterbiev did not win 7 rounds period. and compu stats prove that.
The 116-112 card is the problem here.
I also score fights on defence and seeing beterbiev threw 260 more punches than bivol and still landed less than him tells me bivol schooled him in defence which is a criteria in which boxing contests are also judged on.
This fight no clear winner has emerged so the right thing to is to have rematch and see which fighter adapts the most to win

[IronDanHamza]

Rounds bivol won 1,2,3,4,8 and 9...my mistake when i said 4 rounds up as I meant 3...I also don't thinks it's a robbery as a round separates both fighters but beterbiev did not win 7 rounds period. and compu stats prove that.
The 116-112 card is the problem here.
I also score fights on defence and seeing beterbiev threw 260 more punches than bivol and still landed less than him tells me bivol schooled him in defence which is a criteria in which boxing contests are also judged on.
This fight no clear winner has emerged so the right thing to is to have rematch and see which fighter adapts the most to win

Ok but he didn't clearly win 3 though, did he? Beterbiev not only arguably won that round, likely did win it on most people's cards, as well as all 3 of the judges cards. So by your own account there's 7 potential rounds for Beterbiev. 4 wasn't a clear round either.

Except he did win 7 rounds. That happened.

3,5,6,7,10,11 12 = 7 Rounds that you could score for Beterbiev. (And also the 7 that I scored for Beterbiev)

And CompuBox statistics quite literally do the opposite of "proving" anything.

And even then, Bivol landed FIVE more punches whilst throwing 250+ less according to Compubox. If anything that stat would show that the fight was anyone's.

[The plunger man]

Ok but he didn't clearly win 3 though, did he? Beterbiev not only arguably won that round, likely did win it on most people's cards, as well as all 3 of the judges cards. So by your own account there's 7 potential rounds for Beterbiev. 4 wasn't a clear round either.

Except he did win 7 rounds. That happened.

3,5,6,7,10,11 12 = 7 Rounds that you could score for Beterbiev. (And also the 7 that I scored for Beterbiev)

And CompuBox statistics quite literally do the opposite of "proving" anything.

And even then, Bivol landed FIVE more punches whilst throwing 250+ less according to Compubox. If anything that stat would show that the fight was anyone's.

https://www.ringtv.com/714296-artur-beterbiev-vs-dmitry-bivol-writers-and-experts-share-their-scorecards-and-opinions/#google_vignette

Most experts had bivol winning a close decision but you are right it was a toss up but the consensus is that is either
a draw or bivol edged it and no way in hell did beter win 8 rounds...a rematch is the only way this gets resolved

[IronDanHamza]

https://www.ringtv.com/714296-artur-beterbiev-vs-dmitry-bivol-writers-and-experts-share-their-scorecards-and-opinions/#google_vignette

Most experts had bivol winning a close decision but you are right it was a toss up but the consensus is that is either
a draw or bivol edged it and no way in hell did beter win 8 rounds...a rematch is the only way this gets resolved

I mean, there is an argument that Beterbiev won 8 rounds. There are 8 rounds in the fight you could make an argument that he won.

You've said "most" had Bivol winning when that's just frankly not true.

Out of 21 scorecards, 9 had Bivol winning. That is not "most" of them it's actually less than half of them.

The fact of the matter is this, Betebiev won the fight and he won it fair and sqaure. It's as simple as that.

It warrants a rematch as it was very close and I'm sure it will happen.

[_Rexy_]

https://www.ringtv.com/714296-artur-beterbiev-vs-dmitry-bivol-writers-and-experts-share-their-scorecards-and-opinions/#google_vignette

Most experts had bivol winning a close decision but you are right it was a toss up but the consensus is that is either
a draw or bivol edged it and no way in hell did beter win 8 rounds...a rematch is the only way this gets resolved

9-5-5-2 is not "Most experts had Bivol winning" It's "42% of experts polled had Bivol winning"

[The plunger man]

I mean, there is an argument that Beterbiev won 8 rounds. There are 8 rounds in the fight you could make an argument that he won.

You've said "most" had Bivol winning when that's just frankly not true.

Out of 21 scorecards, 9 had Bivol winning. That is not "most" of them it's actually less than half of them.

The fact of the matter is this, Betebiev won the fight and he won it fair and sqaure. It's as simple as that.

It warrants a rematch as it was very close and I'm sure it will happen.

You cannot find 8 rounds in the fight for beterbiev....he only won 6 rounds max on compu stats and 2 of those were only sperated by a single punch and there was a dead level round as well.....officially it was 6 to 5 to beterbiev with 1 even round....beterbiev did not win more than 6 rounds in that ring unless you judge a fight on punches hitting gloves or missing.
Almost double the amount of experts had bivol as the winner....how is that better phrased for you
I had bivol wiñning because he showed the better skill , footwork , accuracy , hand speed and was simply the better boxer you picked beterbiev because he came forward and aggression but he was outlanded by bivol who threw 260 fewer punches than him which should tell you it's not effective aggression.

[IronDanHamza]

You cannot find 8 rounds in the fight for beterbiev....he only won 6 rounds max on compu stats and 2 of those were only sperated by a single punch and there was a dead level round as well.....officially it was 6 to 5 to beterbiev with 1 even round....beterbiev did not win more than 6 rounds in that ring unless you judge a fight on punches hitting gloves or missing.
Almost double the amount of experts had bivol as the winner....how is that better phrased for you
I had bivol wiñning because he showed the better skill , footwork , accuracy , hand speed and was simply the better boxer you picked beterbiev because he came forward and aggression but he was outlanded by bivol who threw 260 fewer punches than him which should tell you it's not effective aggression.

I literally just named you 8 rounds you could argue Beterveiv won; 3,4,5,6,7,10 11 and 12 = 8 rounds. There’s an argument that he won those rounds therefore I quite literally can find 8 rounds and have given you 8 rounds (you could score for him)

You’ve just cited Compubox again…. That isn’t an argument and on top of that you’ve just said Beterbeiv outlanded Bivol in more of the rounds

I don’t really care how you “phrase it”. Would rather you just tell you the truth and the statement of “most experts had Bivol winning” is false. When the actual reality is 42% had Bivol winning. That is not only not “most” but it’s not even the majority.

I scored the fight for Beterbiev because I had him winning more rounds than Bivol. Very simple.

[The plunger man]

I literally just named you 8 rounds you could argue Beterveiv won; 3,4,5,6,7,10 11 and 12 = 8 rounds. There’s an argument that he won those rounds therefore I quite literally can find 8 rounds and have given you 8 rounds (you could score for him)

You’ve just cited Compubox again…. That isn’t an argument and on top of that you’ve just said Beterbeiv outlanded Bivol in more of the rounds

I don’t really care how you “phrase it”. Would rather you just tell you the truth and the statement of “most experts had Bivol winning” is false. When the actual reality is 42% had Bivol winning. That is not only not “most” but it’s not even the majority.

I scored the fight for Beterbiev because I had him winning more rounds than Bivol. Very simple.

he doesn't have an argument for winning 8 rounds that's what I said and beterbiev won 6 and 2 of those he sc****d by a single punch....look in your eyes beterbiev won the fight and the judges agreed with you...I thought bivol won or deserved a draw at the worst.
this fight is un resolved as no clear winner so let's hope for an immediate rematch and let's hope the judges score the fight correctly on how boxing contests should be judged.
Bivol gets the win next time this I have no doubt in the rematch but we will see

[IronDanHamza]

he doesn't have an argument for winning 8 rounds that's what I said and beterbiev won 6 and 2 of those he sc****d by a single punch....look in your eyes beterbiev won the fight and the judges agreed with you...I thought bivol won or deserved a draw at the worst.
this fight is un resolved as no clear winner so let's hope for an immediate rematch and let's hope the judges score the fight correctly on how boxing contests should be judged.
Bivol gets the win next time this I have no doubt in the rematch but we will see

Right I know that you said, but it’s incorrect. I’ve just named you the rounds. Unless you are trying to argue Bivol clearly won any of those rounds?

I don’t understand how you can say Bivol deserved a draw at least and then also say Beterbiev won 6 rounds. There init has to be one more swing round the other way on your card and Beterbiev wins on your own card.

The judges already did score it correctly. There was nothing wrong with any of the 3 cards and all 3 are justifiable.

In the rematch Bivol would have to win more rounds.