Who's the biggest fraud in Boxing currently?

[Pac=Duran]

You're the fraud.

Wilder, one of the hardest punching humans to ever walk the earth, fought an historic draw with Fury to cap off his stellar championship career, and he might well have scored a knockout in that war. Those two giants co- dominated one of the best heavyweight eras in history.

Usyk only entered the era as it was ending.
Joshua?? Parker?? Don't be foolish.
Wilders losses came at the very end of his career. Not so for the other two.

That is how history reads.

This is the most fraudulent post in the history of this forum.

[daggum]

You're the fraud.

Wilder, one of the hardest punching humans to ever walk the earth, fought an historic draw with Fury to cap off his stellar championship career, and he might well have scored a knockout in that war. Those two giants co- dominated one of the best heavyweight eras in history.

Usyk only entered the era as it was ending.
Joshua?? Parker?? Don't be foolish.
Wilders losses came at the very end of his career. Not so for the other two.

That is how history reads.

wilder has a 25% ko ratio against top 10 opposition.

that draw should have been a fury win.

he might have done a lot of things in his career, but yet he didnt and his resume is crap.

wilders losses came when he stepped up in competition. his career ended because he couldnt compete

[daggum]

This is the most fraudulent post in the history of this forum.

nah this same guy has written worse posts about how great wilder is, which is all in service of hyping up fury. just ask him about resumes and he will say look at how many title defenses wilder has! then when you tell them only 1 was against a top 10 fighter he will make up something else etc...etc...

[Willow The Wisp]

Fighters who are "Frauds" and know that they just can't cut it in the big leagues; all choose MMA or Kickboxing careers; and limit their income potential and opponent quality, in exchange for more open rules under which to win a fight.

Boxers are never frauds. They are giving themselves a shot at the Big Money, using Big self belief; even those who just serve as opponents.

But top 10 ranking guys being called "frauds"???? You've got the wrong sport, skippy.

[Willow The Wisp]

To daggum and Pac=Duran......

Other posters should be advised about you clowns.

Those of us at the Ring, Boxing Illustrated, ESPN, the BWAA, the IBHOF and the IBRO have, for many many years, chuckled about how dull witted the average boxing fan is; and the last few posts exhibit why that is.

If boxing is as easy as they think; why are they still doing their 5 figure job that an orangutan could be trained to do?
Put on the gloves, girls.
Show us.

Hope that's a snooty enough response to the students.

[daggum]

Fighters who are "Frauds" and know that they just can't cut it in the big leagues; all choose MMA or Kickboxing careers; and limit their income potential and opponent quality, in exchange for more open rules under which to win a fight.

Boxers are never frauds. They are giving themselves a shot at the Big Money, using Big self belief; even those who just serve as opponents.

But top 10 ranking guys being called "frauds"???? You've got the wrong sport, skippy.

elizabeth holmes made billions of dollars. she was a fraud. you can have money and still be a fraud. wilder has a lot of money. he was a fraud. he was a mediocre fighter who was handled with kid gloves in order to make that money. now boxing is more at fault than wilder or pbc, they were just the con artists who took advantage of this unregulated space but that doesnt mean we have to like it

[daggum]

To daggum and Pac=Duran......

Other posters should be advised about you clowns.

Those of us at the Ring, Boxing Illustrated, ESPN, the BWAA, the IBHOF and the IBRO have, for many many years, chuckled about how dull witted the average boxing fan is; and the last few posts exhibit why that is.

If boxing is as easy as they think; why are they still doing their 5 figure job that an orangutan could be trained to do?
Put on the gloves, girls.
Show us.

Hope that's a snooty enough response to the students.

what should they be advised of? that we think wilder was a hype job? i think if they look at his resume they will be advised of that.

oh wow you are everywhere in boxing. a true insider...yet you think wilder was an amazing fighter? maybe you are a little too close to things if you really think that. maybe you are a little too close to criticize. the average joe boxing fan is what fueled and enabled wilders rise to the "top" after knocking over a string of tomato cans. wilder should be thanking them for being so ignorant. im just not ignorant. he wasnt very good. you keep saying how amazing and great he was but your claims need evidence, and you have none. i can point to his mediocre resume and his pitiful knockout ratio against ranked fighters to show he wasnt very good when it comes to world level boxing. yeah hes better than charlie zelenoff and he proved that, well done. too bad he didnt do it against legit guys

[billeau2]

wilder has a 25% ko ratio against top 10 opposition.

that draw should have been a fury win.

he might have done a lot of things in his career, but yet he didnt and his resume is crap.

wilders losses came when he stepped up in competition. his career ended because he couldnt compete

More crap from the purveyor of a ton of it. That is just patently false. Top 10 opposition? Lol your really going off the reservation now...

[billeau2]

nah this same guy has written worse posts about how great wilder is, which is all in service of hyping up fury. just ask him about resumes and he will say look at how many title defenses wilder has! then when you tell them only 1 was against a top 10 fighter he will make up something else etc...etc...

We are all too familiar with your notions of top ten and ranking lol. They make no sense. Wilder had Fury down multiple times, Fury is either the best, or second best heavyweight right now. And anyone with eyes could see that Wilder has been sub par against Parker and Zhang. Zhang who cannot even fight an entire match if he throws more than a few punches a round.

[billeau2]

what should they be advised of? that we think wilder was a hype job? i think if they look at his resume they will be advised of that.

oh wow you are everywhere in boxing. a true insider...yet you think wilder was an amazing fighter? maybe you are a little too close to things if you really think that. maybe you are a little too close to criticize. the average joe boxing fan is what fueled and enabled wilders rise to the "top" after knocking over a string of tomato cans. wilder should be thanking them for being so ignorant. im just not ignorant. he wasnt very good. you keep saying how amazing and great he was but your claims need evidence, and you have none. i can point to his mediocre resume and his pitiful knockout ratio against ranked fighters to show he wasnt very good when it comes to world level boxing. yeah hes better than charlie zelenoff and he proved that, well done. too bad he didnt do it against legit guys

You have pointed... And been exposed for pointing off into space because your sense of skill is all tied up with Joshua's relative performance and with relative measures that are not objective. You take two pigs and put lipstick on one of them and claim one is better than the other... you ful! People like you are blind. Chris Areola threw more punches in his fight with Ruiz, yet fuls like you call him old... Ortiz was undefeated until he fought Wilder yet you claim his record, which was not any different from the rest of the pack, made him a weak opponent. Wilder knocked down one of the two best heavyweights, did Joshua manage that? Usyk who has no axe to grind stated unequivocally that Fury was a much harder fight for him than Joshua.

And now that Parker and Dubois have hit their stride you want to forget their losses to the same level of competition. Your silly argument boils down to: "well Wilder did not fight Joshua, so he fought substandard competition. If you look at fighters like Stiverne, martin, etc and compare their entire career to fighters like Dubois and parker they are not in a different class regarding ability. Parker has hit a peak and Dubois also has hit a stride, after losing to the same class of fighters... The proof being: NONE OF THESE GUYS has been able to defeat one of the top dogs! Facts! Wilder came closest... Dubois gets some credit, but assuming that shot was not called low, we do not know if Usyk would have gotten up, or not. Just stop it ful!