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  • #11
    Now now Tony,
    Your bestie Aj boxed novices Molina & Brazeale then some 40 somethings in his first defences.
    Let's feed Aj to Dubois again or let him have an easy touch or 2 until the dust settles between Usyk & Fury.

    Dubois has just boxed a murderers row compared to Aj, if Aj swerves Dubois it's yet another duck & he should have to face 1 or 2 of Bakolie, Zhang, Hrgovic & Miller or a retirement fight with Wilder. Though I'd like to see Kabayel body snatch him also.

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    • #12
      Dubois vs Parker is a good matchup.

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      • #13
        One of the few times Tony is spot-on. Parker has the best resume in the division. It's criminal he hasn't gotten a title shot yet.

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        • #14
          No need for Dubois vs AJ match. It was one sided whooping. Joshua vs Wilder is the redemption fight.

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          • #15
            I mean no disrespect but personally, that fight doesn’t pique my interest. The fight he should make if there’s no AJ is undisputed. Whether that is against Tyson Fury or Oleksandr Usyk.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by 1Eriugenus View Post
              IDK, the HWs are in a state of flux. It really isn't long ago that anyone who followed boxing would've said the top 4, without question, are AJ, Usyk, Fury & Deontay & the next 2 coming up are Joe Joyce & Anderson. Now Deontay is effectively retired & AJ & Joyce set to follow. If Usyk beats Fury I think they will both retire. If Fury wins I suspect he'll fight AJ then they can all retire. Anderson has a mountain to climb to come back. So it is all completely 'up for grabs'. To me, Bakole is the main man at HW & I think he sparks DDD, but Bakole has flaws & can be very lazy. I could see him being outworked by a technically sound HW like Parker or even, no jokes, Hughie Fury. In about 2 years time Moses Itauma will be ready to sort it all out by knocking them all out.
              Not sure what you’re walking about, I knew Dubois beats all of them from early on. No one stops him now he’s too strong

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              • #17
                I think Daniel Dubois is beyond Joseph Parker 'And he should be next in line to fight the winner of Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk II'.

                Now? In the aftermath of Anthony Joshua vs Daniel Dubois 'I did stated, that Joshua does not deserve the rematch with Dubois. And if Anthony Joshua is to fight on, then fights vs Deontay Wilder, Andy Ruiz Junior III and Dillian Whyte II. Are all good fights, which make complete sense to the boxing community, sport and all the fighters involved'.

                In further reflection? I believe that Joseph Parker vs Anthony Joshua II 'Is also a great fight to make. This fight gives an opportunity for Parker to avenge one of his loses to Joshua, and by the way? I know many people of late are pining over Joseph Parker. The fact of Parker's career, is that he has been beat well numerous times in his career and he has NEVER avenged any of his loses'.

                Lets see if Joseph Parker can avenge his loss to Anthony Joshua 'I wonder if Parker will actually, fight with ambition to seriously win this time around?'.

                Both Anthony Joshua and Joseph Parker, throughout their careers have been subjected to similar criticisms 'They are both Heavyweights fighters, with great attributes. But sometimes during fights, they have appeared not to utilize all of their best attributes optimally'.

                Note: Joseph Parker is actually been many times more worst than Anthony Joshua in his career 'Parker has fought in many fights, were he appeared to just be content with surviving the full 12 rounds. Even Parker's performance vs Deontay Wilder skill for skill and in terms of effort? Was not a really impressive performance in my opinion. Deontay Wilder was clearly way below his best form, and was their to be taken out or at least beaten up more systematically. It was a great feat of achievement that Parker got the win vs Wilder, but it was in no way Joseph Parker's best performance of his career'.

                I still personally rate Joseph Parker's losing performance vs Joe Joyce as one of his best ever performances 'On that night, Joe Joyce may have been a formidable challenge for any top level Heavyweight fighter in the world. Joyce was appearing to be at his absolute peak, in terms of performance and the universal perception that people had of him within the boxing community'.

                Joseph Parker tactically and in terms of the balance between agression and skill 'Fought a great fight vs Joe Joyce. And there is definitive evidence that since that fight, Joe Joyce's form decreased. I was one of the few individuals who continually reference this fight, and stated? That Joe Joyce was damaged way more than the media and people within the boxing community acknowledge'.

                Many people were claiming that Anthony Joshua's opponent's that he fight fought before Daniel Dubois 'Had created a smoke screen. Certain folk within the boxing community claimed that none of those fighters were top level fighters, even though? Francis Ngannou beat Tyson Fury over 10 rounds, and Otto Wallin before fighting Joshua had only before been beaten once in his career by Tyson Fury. And prior to fighting Anthony Joshua, Otto Wallin was coming into that fight after his best ever win in his career against Murat Gasseiv'.

                I pose the question? Has both Deontay Wilder and Zhilei Zhang created a smoke screen for Joseph Parker's true form? Parker got the win vs Wilder, but he was unable to stop him or even beat him up. And Zhilei Zhang vs Joseph Parker was a close fight that could of went ether way, in the mass opinion of many people from within the boxing community. But in my opinion, overall skill for skill Parker most likely was the better fight in that fight'.

                Joseph Parker vs Anthony Joshua II 'I would place this fight, in that group of potential comeback fights for Joshua. Those fights are: Deontay Wilder, Andy Ruiz Junior III, Dillian Whyte II and Joseph Parker vs Anthony Joshua II'.

                To conclude: I am still not really phased by Anthony Joshua fighting most other top level Heavyweights. Yes, Joshua's last performance skill for skill was the worst ever of his career. But it has been around 7 days now since the 21st September 2024. And I believe certain aspects of Joshua's performances have been exaggerated, I am mainly speaking about Anthony Joshua's durability'.

                Many people are claiming, that Joshua vs Dubois 'Is a fight that has proven, Anthony Joshua's durability to be terrible. To the contrary, I genuinely believe? That Anthony Joshua vs Daniel Dubois is a fight, that has actually proven Joshua durability to be at the level that I have always rated it. Anthony Joshua's durability is solid enough, and better than many other Heavyweights in the sport'.

                Daniel Dubois hit Anthony Joshua with his best power punch of the fight 'In the first round, at maximum power and beyond'. People need to understand? That this was not Tyson Fury fighting Deontay Wilder, a fighter who he out weighed by 40 pounds. This was not the 12th round, Deontay Wilder was clearly fatigued when he landed that power punch on Tyson Fury'.

                This was round one, Daniel Dubois was 248 pounds 'He landed his best maximum power punch and beyond on Anthony Joshua. It is minor miracle that Anthony Joshua was able to get up off the deck'.

                And there is a fact in the action that many people 'Will purposely overlook. Because that is what in general, certain people do. Certain folk do not want to analyse and think too much. Once the conclusion to a fight has been reached, that sort of analysation is usually of a interest to the fighters. Boxing trainers and analyst of the game'.

                After Anthony Joshua was decked in round 1 'Skill for skill Joshua's performance was his worst ever. The unforced errors, and his boxing fundamentals were not on point. But during round 2, round 3, round 4 and round 5. From a share physiological perspective, Anthony Joshua was actually getting stronger. Round 5 was appearing to be Anthony Joshua's best round, before he waded into another power from Daniel Dubois. The way Anthony Joshua fought Daniel Dubois amplified Dubois's power'.

                I don't believe there is enough evidence that suggest, Heavyweight fighters like Joseph Parker can deck Anthony Joshua 'I honestly think that 95% of the Heavyweight fighters active in the division, would struggle to deck and hurt Joshua badly'.

                Daniel Dubois on 21st September 2024 may of just had his 'Any given Saturday'. Dubois as a Champion now, we don't know for sure whether? He will produce that level of performance again. Daniel Dubois at this point in time, has made no World title defenses. Dubois Championship reign, starts for real in his next fight. So lets just see how this man, fights against all comers after this point'.

                I have already stated in my previous posts 'That I would not be surprised, if Anthony Joshua in the rematch vs Daniel Dubois. Endure's Dubois's power more impressively'.

                The competitive landscape of the Heavyweight Division, is altering on a fight by fight basis 'Daniel Dubois deserves to be held in extreme high esteem at this point in time. But will he still be in his position after his first World title defense? Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua all of those fighters had more than just one Any Given Saturday. They won fights as Champions many times' etc.















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                • #18
                  Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
                  I give Dubois a full credit for beating Joshua, but I think he would be fool if he fought Bakole, Kabayel or Parker next. Dubois could lose to any of these guys.

                  Dubois should rematch Joshua.
                  Agreed but still would be nice for him to challenge himself.

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                  • #19
                    IAMTHAT If they ever fight, please lets have a side bet. I don't think they ever will fight, because the people behind DDD would know that the day he gets in the ring with Martin Bakole will be the worst day of his life & the end of his career. No joke, Bakole irons DDD any time, anywhere, anyhow.

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