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  • #21
    Oleksandr Usyk personally vacated his IBF World Championship belts 'Usyk was not stripped of his titles. Yes he was being put under pressure to defend his titles, but? Ultimately it was Oleksandr Uysk and his team who made the conscious decision to relinquish the IBF titles'.

    In reality Oleksandr Uysk has done a very similar thing to what Rid**** Bowe did during the 90's 'When Bowe vacated his WBC World Heavyweight title, in order to avoid a fight with Lennox Lewis'.

    Oleksandr Uysk vacated his IBF World Heavyweight title, because he did not want to defend his titles against the mandatory challenger. There are requirements, and obligations that all Champions must adhere to? One of the most important duties is defending your titles against all comers'.

    Many people within the boxing community, do not want to acknowledge that Oleksandr Uysk and his team made a conscious decision not to defend their IBF titles.

    From my observation, there was nothing stopping team Uysk from defending their IBF titles 'Before their potential rematch with Tyson Fury in December 2024'.

    Now, that sort of condense fighting schedule would of been a challenge for a modern day fighter 'But if Oleksandr Uysk was the IBF Champion, then it was his duty to defend those titles'.

    Note: Sugar Ray Robinson had 201 fights in total. Henry Armstrong had 183 fights, once upon a time? Armstrong fought 27 times in one year.

    Muhammad Ali got his jaw broken by Ken Norton in their first fight 'And even after such a injury, the rematch was less than 6 months later'.

    The point I am trying to make is? If Oleksandr Uysk wanted to really keep the IBF title 'Then although yes, it would be a challenge for him. But there was nothing stopping him from fighting his mandatory challenger for the IBF title, before his rematch with Tyson Fury'.

    Oleksandr Uysk has not fought his mandatory challenger, therefore the IBF has made the correct decision 'Forcing Oleksandr Uysk to vacate the title'.

    'Uysk is a great fighter, he is the most accomplished active fighter in the sport of boxing 'Uysk's wins over both Fury and Joshua are pound for pound, the greatest feats of achievement in the sport of boxing in the last 15 years'.

    But regardless of all of this feats of achievement, the boxing game moves on 'Oleksandr Uysk in my opinion could of fought harder to defend his IBF World title. Uysk has vacated this title, he has not fought to hold onto the Title'.

    To conclude: The IBF have made the right decision, great as a fighter Oleksandr Uysk is 'The game has to move on'. People need to also understand, that Oleksandr Uysk vacated the IBF World title and in my opinion 'No disrespect to Uysk, but he could of fought harder to hold onto the IBF World titles. Oleksandr Uysk vacated the IBF title, if he really believe that he was the IBF World Champion, then their was nothing stopping him from fighting his mandatory challenger before the Tyson Fury rematch'.

    People need to ask themselves the honest question? Do you guys believe that Oleksandr Uysk fought hard enough and with everything to hold onto his IBF titles? In my opinion, he could of done more. And if people are honest, and have no subjective narratives which they are trying to promote 'Then you all know the answer to that question'.

    Oleksandr Uysk was the IBF World Heavyweight Champion, he was order to fight his mandatory 'Oleksandr Uysk and his team made a conscious decision not to defend their titles'.

    Tyson Fury's behaviours and antics did have a disruptive and negative effect upon Oleksandr Uysk's IBF title reign 'But Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk I, that fight took place on May 18th 2024. Their rematch is scheduled for December 21st 2024'.

    That is a duration of 6 months between fights, which in my opinion if we look back in boxing history 'At how other past all-time great fighters, have conducted themselves. If Oleksandr Uysk really wanted to hold onto his IBF World titles, then for sure 1000% he could of fought harder''.

    I will state this again: Sugar Ray Robinson had 201 fights in total. Henry Armstrong had 183 fights, once upon a time? Armstrong fought 27 times in one year.

    Muhammad Ali got his jaw broken by Ken Norton in their first fight 'And even after such a injury, the rematch was less than 6 months later'.​

    When Oleksandr Uysk is a unprecedented talent and has been a great Champion throughout his career. But I believe moments like this highlight, that there are levels of greatness that you will be compared to when you are a Champion.

    People may mock Anthony Joshua, and his critics may claim that 'The Anthony Joshua vs Daniel Dubois fight, is not a title fight for the genuine IBF World title. But I totally disagree with that perception and notion'.

    If you check Anthony Joshua's resume 'You will understand that he has never vacated any of his World titles he has ever held. That statistic alone, confirms that? Anthony Joshua has never avoided a fight as a Champion against a mandatory challenger, and he has as a Champion taken on all comers',

    Nobody here today, can make that statement for ether Tyson Fury or Oleksandr Uysk 'Because of those fighters as Heavyweight Champions, have ether vacated belts or chose not to defend their titles for various reasons. Those are the facts of boxing history'.

    Therefore on 21st September 2024, Anthony Joshua vs Daniel Dubois 'Is rightfully and justifiable the fight which decides who will be the current IBF World Heavyweight Champion'.

    And if Anthony Joshua wins the IBF titles on 21 st September 2024, and ether Tyson Fury or Oleksandr Uysk have got a issue? Then what they can do, is confront the man and attempt to beat the IBF World Heavyweight Champion' etc.








    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 09-20-2024, 11:04 AM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by robbyheartbaby View Post
      Building a narrative that the IBF is somehow worse than the other sanctioning bodies is ridiculous. You criticise mandatories yet are you willing to defend the fact Benavidez was mandatory at 168 for the WBC strap for 2 years yet wasn’t given his shot Canelo? You can’t have it both ways.
      Raskin went out of the way to say the other sanctioning bodies were crap. He pointed it out no less than three times, and gave examples.

      So he held a spotlight on the IBF in this piece. Can you defend them? Every example he gave was 100% legit. This organization has made garbage decisions. Why be defensive he focused on one crap sanctioning body?

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      • #23
        You're defending drug cheat Canelo who over and over fights literal nobodies? Canelo is just as bad as these organizations..he pays them to make tomato cans as mandatories so he can fight them. It's disgusting.

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        • #24
          I hate it when folks play the “he did too!” game. The article is about the ibf and some of the bullshiht theyve pulled lately. We all know the rest of them are just as corrupt and i just wish boxing could clean this crap up. The AJ/Dubois fight is interestimg enough without the ibf belt. And i wont be watching Boots/karen at all. Not even the least bit interested. Rankings for the alphabet bodies are the #1 problem in my book. Get the rankings together and the sport becomes major again.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Boxing Scene View Post
            You're defending drug cheat Canelo who over and over fights literal nobodies? Canelo is just as bad as these organizations..he pays them to make tomato cans as mandatories so he can fight them. It's disgusting.
            And he couldnt do it without a fan base. So boxing fans are disgusting.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Clegg View Post


              Anybody with this attitude is obviously going to have an issue with an organisation that enforces mandatories.
              mandatories that are undeserving and usually not even considered top 15 or 30 guys in a division. is that how spell 'mandatories'?

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              • #27
                I don't agree with the writer. First, all the teams behind names boxers try to get ranked by the most corrupts alphabet soups, wbo, wba abd wbc because they don't enforce their mandatories, see canelo vs Morrell Jr and benavidez, Crawford etc. 2nd if canelo wanted to stay "unify" he should fought Scull, after all his last three opponents were not household names and they jump the line ahead of biggers fights like benavidez and Morrell jr. You can't tell berlanga was bigger than Scull when he left benavidez on the table, for ryder, munguia and berlanga.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by landotter View Post

                  Raskin went out of the way to say the other sanctioning bodies were crap. He pointed it out no less than three times, and gave examples.

                  So he held a spotlight on the IBF in this piece. Can you defend them? Every example he gave was 100% legit. This organization has made garbage decisions. Why be defensive he focused on one crap sanctioning body?
                  He focused on the only one that force its mandatories, without mentioning why their mandatories are somehow lessers than the others. What good does it do having benavidez and Morrell jr as mandatories if the champ is looking the other way? Is Ennis mandatory for Crawford?

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