Comments Thread For: Edgar Berlanga could return in February - in Puerto Rico

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  • crimsonfalcon07
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    #31
    I don't know why people thought he was going to get knocked out by Canelo. Canelo hasn't stopped anyone since Plant, and Plant probably could have made it to the final bell if they'd let him try. That's not to say he's good. Berlanga might be a step up from Yildirim, but he's gotten dropped by guys well below the top level once he stepped up competition even a little. But Canelo probably couldn't even stop Jake Paul at this point.

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    • Smash
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      #32
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      the island awaits edgar

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      • Corelone
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        #33
        His stock was cut rate to start. He's going to ride Canelos coat tail and dwindle with Eddys guidance. Puerto Rico vs Willy Lump lump, yummy.

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        • Bullrider
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          #34
          He's getting props for surviving the distance. Tell that to Jared Anderson. He'll laugh at you like a hyena.

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            #35
            Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07
            I don't know why people thought he was going to get knocked out by Canelo. Canelo hasn't stopped anyone since Plant, and Plant probably could have made it to the final bell if they'd let him try. That's not to say he's good. Berlanga might be a step up from Yildirim, but he's gotten dropped by guys well below the top level once he stepped up competition even a little. But Canelo probably couldn't even stop Jake Paul at this point.
            They probably didn't know he would weigh almost 200 lb for the fight lol. That's one way to guarantee not going down.

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              #36
              Originally posted by billeau2

              They probably didn't know he would weigh almost 200 lb for the fight lol. That's one way to guarantee not going down.
              He couldn't stop a 154lber either. He's still a great fighter IMO, but ever since the scrutiny really came in that camp, what with Canelo, Martinez, Valdez, and now also Ryan Garcia all testing positive, he hasn't had the gas tank he once had, which is at least suggestive.

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              • hitmanjosh
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                #37
                Berlanga is receiving way more credit than his talent displayed or he has, he comes in as a Cruiserweight fight to go the distance without much effort or in spots for the most part and is now being treated as if he Felix Trinidad, GTFOH! Danny Jacobs will even beat that ass, and we know he weak as hell too!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by pnut901
                  I'd like to hear from some boxing fans that actually live in Puerto Rico , if Berlanga really is the "star" that they're making him out to be on La Isla Bonita . I get the sense that Eddie Hearn might be cramming him down the throats of Puerto Ricans. Like they're trying too hard. I will say this , you can't manufacture the next big Puerto Rican star. It's got to be organic. If the people love you or not comes from the people, not the promoter or the fighter.

                  ​​​​​I like Xander Zayas but I don't think that he's going to be the next Tito or Cotto. It would be fantastic if he turned out to be as great as them in the ring, only time will tell and I will happily be proven wrong.

                  Yup, what he said...although, that kid Geo Lopez that's trained by Reynoso looks promising.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

                    He couldn't stop a 154lber either. He's still a great fighter IMO, but ever since the scrutiny really came in that camp, what with Canelo, Martinez, Valdez, and now also Ryan Garcia all testing positive, he hasn't had the gas tank he once had, which is at least suggestive.
                    bread made some intelligent comments suggesting that a lot of punchers, as they age, start to miss the "High gear" that allowed them to finish off an opponent. As far as drug testing? we simply can never really know can we? That is the big fat elephant in the room... Ryan could have taken massive amounts, worked hard, them got caught with a trace amount, or he could have just gotten a bite on the wrong supplements... And even with small amounts, who knows what the actual advantage is?

                    Ill tell you what makes me shake my head... All the back and fourth on steriods, and other enhancements... not only do people not realize that these are a class of drug that is in many medicines prescribed to the public, but nobody wants to consider how our lack of knowing measurable attributes to these drugs, suggests an advantage to the argument that athletes should be given more lattitude in what they choose to take. Not even suggesting this is right, but at least ethics should consider how little we can hope to gauge, as a reason that is favorable...

                    We know that weight lifters use these drugs. It is just part of the sport, and we also can see the limits they present because of this. Could boxing do likewise? Perhaps fighters, trainers, and others could then figure out the limits to these drugs and not simply assume that the minute someone ses them they gain some profound edge. Just a thought.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by billeau2

                      bread made some intelligent comments suggesting that a lot of punchers, as they age, start to miss the "High gear" that allowed them to finish off an opponent. As far as drug testing? we simply can never really know can we? That is the big fat elephant in the room... Ryan could have taken massive amounts, worked hard, them got caught with a trace amount, or he could have just gotten a bite on the wrong supplements... And even with small amounts, who knows what the actual advantage is?

                      Ill tell you what makes me shake my head... All the back and fourth on steriods, and other enhancements... not only do people not realize that these are a class of drug that is in many medicines prescribed to the public, but nobody wants to consider how our lack of knowing measurable attributes to these drugs, suggests an advantage to the argument that athletes should be given more lattitude in what they choose to take. Not even suggesting this is right, but at least ethics should consider how little we can hope to gauge, as a reason that is favorable...

                      We know that weight lifters use these drugs. It is just part of the sport, and we also can see the limits they present because of this. Could boxing do likewise? Perhaps fighters, trainers, and others could then figure out the limits to these drugs and not simply assume that the minute someone ses them they gain some profound edge. Just a thought.
                      I hear you on that.

                      I actually have my own theory about why Canelo isn't getting stoppages. I think it comes down to him falling in love with his much vaunted power, particularly after the Kovalev fight. I think his ego really liked knocking out a bigger guy who had a reputation as a crusher. After that fight, you don't see as much head movement, and more importantly, every shot is a bomb. He's had to be more economical as a result because that takes so much energy, and I can say for a fact that once you feel the power, it's way easier to take punches if you know they're all going to be bombs. If he varied his cadence and did some throwaway shots to set up the big ones, I think we'd see him get stoppages again. Keep his opponents guessing on which ones to tense up on. Plus he would be able to throw more shots with less gas.

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