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  • #11
    The smw class was better during RJJs time. Period

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    • #12
      No.

      Did you see what he did to the 44-0, top 3 in the world James Toney?

      Imagine somebody/anybody winning a 10-2 decision against Terence Crawford, Monster Inoue, or Usyk right now?

      How do you think they'd be ranked?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Cash in View Post
        The man is so overrated and everybody with a pulse beat James Toney. The man lost more times than that overrated journeyman Sam Langford. Roy Jones got battered by the older Joe Calzaghe, so imagine what a prime Cobra would do to him. Carl Froch is an international superstar and that's just a fact. Froch beats Jones and Toney at the same time, even under the tutorship of his best friend, rival and fellow great, Saint George Groves. Cash in - His Excellency
        LOL, Froch couldn't even beat Ward!! Nuff said.
        I dont consider Ward anything special in comparison to the ALL TIME GREATS of 168 pounders. He's very good though. I think a peak RJJ, Hopkins, Calzaghe, Kovalev & Toney would have beat him.
        Last edited by MONGOOSE66; 09-11-2024, 09:51 PM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

          LOL, Froch couldn't even beat Ward!! Nuff said.
          I dont consider Ward anything special in comparison to the ALL TIME GREATS of 168 pounders. He's very good though. I think a peak RJJ, Hopkins, Calzaghe, Kovalev & Toney would have beat him.
          Nobody could beat Ward. The man was unbeatable. So unbeatable, that even when he lost - Kovalev 1, he still got the win. You just can't beat that. Kudos to Ward. RJJ spent his peak running away from that Russian guy. He's the only man in the world who has spent more time running than Mayweather. Hopkin's peak was spent in prison, so we'll never know, but credit to the Alien for his longevity. Kovalev didn't have the discipline to beat the Cobra, and Toney never had the consistency. We need to accept that Carl the Cobra Froch is as good as he thinks he is, and never forget, he beat Saint George Groves infront of 80,000 people, and if the stadium filled 1 million, it still would have been full. Cash in - His Excellency

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          • #15
            Originally posted by The D3vil View Post
            No.

            Did you see what he did to the 44-0, top 3 in the world James Toney?

            Imagine somebody/anybody winning a 10-2 decision against Terence Crawford, Monster Inoue, or Usyk right now?

            How do you think they'd be ranked?
            Dave Tiberi didn’t do far off that before Roy Jones did

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            • #16
              Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

              LOL, Froch couldn't even beat Ward!! Nuff said.
              I dont consider Ward anything special in comparison to the ALL TIME GREATS of 168 pounders. He's very good though. I think a peak RJJ, Hopkins, Calzaghe, Kovalev & Toney would have beat him.
              You’re using Froch losing to Ward, one of the P4P best fighters in the world at the time, as a measuring stick when James Toney lost and drew with Journymen multiple times in his prime. How does that make sense?

              If you’re saying that Andre Ward would lose to Toney then that’s just laughable.
              Cash in Cash in likes this.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Cash in View Post

                Nobody could beat Ward. The man was unbeatable. So unbeatable, that even when he lost - Kovalev 1, he still got the win. You just can't beat that. Kudos to Ward. RJJ spent his peak running away from that Russian guy. He's the only man in the world who has spent more time running than Mayweather. Hopkin's peak was spent in prison, so we'll never know, but credit to the Alien for his longevity. Kovalev didn't have the discipline to beat the Cobra, and Toney never had the consistency. We need to accept that Carl the Cobra Froch is as good as he thinks he is, and never forget, he beat Saint George Groves infront of 80,000 people, and if the stadium filled 1 million, it still would have been full. Cash in - His Excellency
                Umm, no.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                  You’re using Froch losing to Ward, one of the P4P best fighters in the world at the time, as a measuring stick when James Toney lost and drew with Journymen multiple times in his prime. How does that make sense?

                  If you’re saying that Andre Ward would lose to Toney then that’s just laughable.
                  Im talking boxers at their PEAK, not overweight. Why do i have to say this AGAIN. Re-tards.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                    You’re using Froch losing to Ward, one of the P4P best fighters in the world at the time, as a measuring stick when James Toney lost and drew with Journymen multiple times in his prime. How does that make sense?

                    If you’re saying that Andre Ward would lose to Toney then that’s just laughable.
                    The Great Cash, the cousin and brother of Nash Out, agrees with this. Cash in - His Excellency

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

                      Im talking boxers at their PEAK, not overweight. Why do i have to say this AGAIN. Re-tards.
                      Can you read? James Toney lost and drew to journeyman multiple times IN HIS PRIME YEARS you dumb cunt.

                      That’s at Middleweight, multiple times, so what are you talking about “overweight”?

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