Deontay Wilder greatness

[daggum]

Whyte is a PED popping hype job who fights dirty and was exposed for being a pretender by Fury. 2 years Wilders mando for doing what exactly ?

2017 Wilder was a legitimate threat to everybody. Hearn knew that so putting AJ in with him was never gonna happen especially after he fücked up Ortiz, who AJ also ducked.

this is real life sir. not wilder fantasy boxing. we dont just make up things.


Mar 3, 2018 Wilder earned a $2.1 million purse on Saturday and Ortiz took home $500,000 in the loss


Apr 10, 2018 Eddie Hearn offers Deontay Wilder $12.5M to fight Anthony...


hearn was so scared after wilder beat ortiz that he offered him 6 times his career high to fight joshua? then he offered him 100 million after that. these arent the actions of people who are scared to fight. not credible.



also aj ducked ortiz? when did this happen? more fantasy?


Oct 8, 2016 Heavyweight Luis Ortiz signs with Matchoom Boxing


Dec 11, 2016 Joshua Klitschko officially announced for April 29


Mar 29, 2017 Luis Ortiz ends relation with Matchroom


Oct 20, 2017 Luis Ortiz suspended, stripped of mandatory status by WBA


May 1, 2019 Ortiz was offered $7 million to fight Joshua or 14 times the amount he made against wilder



ortiz is the one who left matchroom which would have made it much easier to get the fight, ortiz is the one who tested positive for ped's which cost him his mandatory status, ortiz is the one who turned down a career high payday to fight joshua. its all Joshua's fault that ortiz did these things! not credible. Ortiz did just about everything to make sure he didnt get the fight, oh wait he did run his mouth in the media which doesnt matter at all when it actually comes time to make the fight.

[Willow The Wisp]

joshua is far above wilder as it stands right now. you keep talking about fantasy knockout wins that wilder doesnt have while joshua has a legit resume. yeah it could be better but i wish you would apply that same magnifying glass to wilder because his resume is sh-ite. guys like joyce, whyte, parker, ruiz have better resumes yet you talk about wilder as if hes something great.

Joshua is "far above wilder as it stands right now" is a true statement. But it is owing to the fact that Joshua is 4 years younger. It's like saying that "Joshua is far above Foreman, Tyson or Lewis as it stands right now". Let's see where A.J. ranks in 4 years time.

That being said. I rank Joshua a bit ahead of Wilder if measured by their career accomplishments to date:

Best Heavyweights 2001 -2024

1. Wladimir Klitschko, UKR
2. Oleksandr Usyk, UKR
3. Tyson Fury, UK
4. Lennox Lewis, UK
5. Anthony Joshua, UK
6. Deontay Wilder, US
7. Zhilei Zhang, CHI
8. Vitali Klitschko, UKR
9. Andy Ruiz Jr, US
10. David Tua, AUS
11. Hasim Rahman, US
12. Joseph Parker, NZ
13. Daniel Dubois, UK
14. Luis Ortiz, CUB
15. Alexander Povetkin, RUS
16. Dillian Whyte, UK
17. Martin Bakole, CON
18. Joe Joyce, UK
19. Agit Kabayel, GER
20. Mike Tyson, US

When I say "A Bit", I mean that I give Joshua his due points for superior ring generalship and quality of opposition, and Wilder points for superior power, defending his claim to the title more frequently, and never surrendering when the chips are down.

The space between them could hardly be described as "Wilder faced only bums ", as some strong willed casual knowledge fans might argue.

Wilder is done, and I see no future for him; but Joshua should have a good four years left in him, and those years will serve to either place distance between him and Wilder's body of work, or; they could drop him clearly below Wilder, on an all-time comparison.

It begins with Dubois vs. Joshua, coming right up.

[pollywog]

this is real life sir. not wilder fantasy boxing. we dont just make up things.


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I'm afraid we do and that you've been sadly misinformed, sir.

[The D3vil]

Nobody has ever argued that Deontay Wilder is "one of the greatest fighters ever"

Just one of the biggest punchers ever, just like Earnie Shavers who never held the HW title.

The only people obsessed with Wilder are Anthony Joshua stans.

The rest of us just said he was a great athlete with a huge punch & fun to watch & that certain fighters ducked him.

[BodyBagz]

if its so easy to beat ranked guys why didnt wilder do it. ran into that one didnt you?

This is the saddest HW era in the history of the sport
GGGs reign was the saddest in the history of the sport.

As for Wilder, besides AJ, who should he have fought that made sense.
I understand how HINDSIGHT is perfect

[kafkod]

this is real life sir. not wilder fantasy boxing. we dont just make up things.


Mar 3, 2018 Wilder earned a $2.1 million purse on Saturday and Ortiz took home $500,000 in the loss


Apr 10, 2018 Eddie Hearn offers Deontay Wilder $12.5M to fight Anthony...


hearn was so scared after wilder beat ortiz that he offered him 6 times his career high to fight joshua? then he offered him 100 million after that. these arent the actions of people who are scared to fight. not credible.



also aj ducked ortiz? when did this happen? more fantasy?


Oct 8, 2016 Heavyweight Luis Ortiz signs with Matchoom Boxing


Dec 11, 2016 Joshua Klitschko officially announced for April 29


Mar 29, 2017 Luis Ortiz ends relation with Matchroom


Oct 20, 2017 Luis Ortiz suspended, stripped of mandatory status by WBA


May 1, 2019 Ortiz was offered $7 million to fight Joshua or 14 times the amount he made against wilder



ortiz is the one who left matchroom which would have made it much easier to get the fight, ortiz is the one who tested positive for ped's which cost him his mandatory status, ortiz is the one who turned down a career high payday to fight joshua. its all Joshua's fault that ortiz did these things! not credible. Ortiz did just about everything to make sure he didnt get the fight, oh wait he did run his mouth in the media which doesnt matter at all when it actually comes time to make the fight.

I'm afraid we do and that you've been sadly misinformed, sir.

You may have been sadly misinformed, but everything Daggum wrote there was widely reported by boxing and sporting media journalists. Were they all misinformed? If so, how do you know the truth about what happened, when all those professional journalists got it wrong?

[Cash in]

Whyte ?!?!?!
Of all guys.....
Whyte ???
Why was Whyte never the man ???
There were other champs he could have throttled

The best thing about Dillian Whyte is his very real brother Dean Whyte. Whyte has never recovered from Tyson Fury's finishing move the punch-push combo. It was a thing of beauty. Cash in - His Excellency

Cash in is Nash out's cousin & brother. He resides somewhere.

[BodyBagz]

The best thing about Dillian Whyte is his very real brother Dean Whyte. Whyte has never recovered from Tyson Fury's finishing move the punch-push combo. It was a thing of beauty. Cash in - His Excellency

Cash in is Nash out's cousin & brother. He resides somewhere.

Dirty Ol Fury's punch n push technique has no defense.
Once applied, game over.
Even refs are unable to defuse it.
Will be what gets him into the HOF.

[Cash in]

Dirty Ol Fury's punch n push technique has no defense.
Once applied, game over.
Even refs are unable to defuse it.
Will be what gets him into the HOF.

It's like the stunner, the amazing finishing move from 3-time Royal Rumble winner Stone Cold Steve Austin, when the move hits, it's game over. Cash in - His Excellency

[kafkod]

Haha...exactly. And the windmills. Legendary!

I'm probably going to end up missing the crazy cunt