Comments Thread For: Diego Pacheco knocks out Maciej Sulecki with sixth-round body shot

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • budfr
    Stick N Move 2 Slick
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Dec 2007
    • 4252
    • 323
    • 155
    • 20,869

    #11
    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07
    Ugh, the top guys in the division are Munguía, Mbilli, and Berlanga these days... That's sad.
    Why sad?? They are all good. Who should be there according to you???

    Comment

    • budfr
      Stick N Move 2 Slick
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Dec 2007
      • 4252
      • 323
      • 155
      • 20,869

      #12
      Originally posted by Fair & Square
      Hearn is the master mis-match maker to portray his boxer look like solid contenders. Common test your boy against a solid contender.
      He just did. According to your ignorance, who is solid besides Canelo?? Typical hater.

      Comment

      • budfr
        Stick N Move 2 Slick
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Dec 2007
        • 4252
        • 323
        • 155
        • 20,869

        #13
        Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

        We will have to agree to disagree.

        Munguía was always protected with a VERY padded record. I'll give him credit that he's getting a bit better, but he's very hittable and throws the exact same combos every time. He's not a solid champion by any stretch.

        Mbilli has one of the most porous guards I've ever seen, has somehow managed to avoid being named a mandatory despite being top ranked in two organizations for years, and his best win was an aged Derevyanchenko who was a career middleweight, and who gave Mbilli everything he could handle with only one arm, and not the most important one either. If you're thinking Mbilli is special, I think that calls your judgement into question, personally. I think he'll get exposed as soon as he really steps up competition. Fortunately for him, the best guys either moved up, or are Canelo, so at least he'll get paid well when he gets exposed, and he can pretend it was just because it was Canelo.

        Berlanga is the worst of the batch. I doubt he gets by rusty Charlo with his cornucopia of mental illnesses, let alone the likes of Caleb Plant, or any of the younger contenders who haven't had any real step ups being domestic to give us an idea about what they've got.
        Munguia was a solid champion and is very good. Oadded record?? You casuals are hard to please. A boxer without amatuer backround needs to fight no names first, and even then, they can lose. You can´t fight all "names" at first, who are sometimes boring fighters anyways. Mayweather has a padded record, full of gift decisions and unable to KO a Girl Scout. Munguia has shown grit, a chin and power. Caleb Plant had an amateur division AND has a padded record is he good for you?? Munguia blasts him. Munguia went 12 good rounds with Canelo whilst Plant was KOed like a bum. Bernard Hopkins should make a comeback??

        Comment

        • Smash
          Undisputed Champion
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Nov 2008
          • 15293
          • 6,315
          • 7,717
          • 21,172

          #14
          berlanga never had to fight any of these guys or really anyone at all lol

          is canelos 'whos he fought' cry gone missing??

          Comment

          • HisExcellency
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Jan 2015
            • 1982
            • 873
            • 641
            • 6,345

            #15
            Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

            We will have to agree to disagree.

            Munguía was always protected with a VERY padded record. I'll give him credit that he's getting a bit better, but he's very hittable and throws the exact same combos every time. He's not a solid champion by any stretch.

            Mbilli has one of the most porous guards I've ever seen, has somehow managed to avoid being named a mandatory despite being top ranked in two organizations for years, and his best win was an aged Derevyanchenko who was a career middleweight, and who gave Mbilli everything he could handle with only one arm, and not the most important one either. If you're thinking Mbilli is special, I think that calls your judgement into question, personally. I think he'll get exposed as soon as he really steps up competition. Fortunately for him, the best guys either moved up, or are Canelo, so at least he'll get paid well when he gets exposed, and he can pretend it was just because it was Canelo.

            Berlanga is the worst of the batch. I doubt he gets by rusty Charlo with his cornucopia of mental illnesses, let alone the likes of Caleb Plant, or any of the younger contenders who haven't had any real step ups being domestic to give us an idea about what they've got.
            I understand what you're saying but with the exception of Light Heavyweight, the rest of the weight divisions around Super Middleweight have a similar level of talent i.e. one ELITE fighter followed by several very good but not great fighters (like Munguia, Mbilli & Berlanga) who ALSO have holes in their game. See below:-

            Welterweight:-

            1. Ennis
            2. Stanionis
            3. Barrios
            4. Avanesyan

            Junior Middleweight:-

            1. Crawford
            2. Madrimov
            3. Fundora
            4. Ortiz

            Middleweight:-

            1. Janibek
            2. Adames
            3. Sheeraz
            4. Lara

            Comment

            • hitmanjosh
              Undisputed Champion
              Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
              • Mar 2010
              • 5624
              • 1,683
              • 3
              • 25,389

              #16
              What I noticed was his feet are extremely slow and defensive flaws as well, but he’s got hope if he can develop better Combinations and faster hands all the things needed at highest level.

              Comment

              • landotter
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Sep 2017
                • 4096
                • 1,360
                • 5,716
                • 33,265

                #17
                That was a good win over a solid, legit fighter. I like the upside with Pacheco. Fan friendly fighter.

                Comment

                • doom_specialist
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1722
                  • 120
                  • 194
                  • 27,396

                  #18
                  Originally posted by budfr

                  Munguia was a solid champion and is very good. Oadded record?? You casuals are hard to please. A boxer without amatuer backround needs to fight no names first, and even then, they can lose. You can´t fight all "names" at first, who are sometimes boring fighters anyways. Mayweather has a padded record, full of gift decisions and unable to KO a Girl Scout. Munguia has shown grit, a chin and power. Caleb Plant had an amateur division AND has a padded record is he good for you?? Munguia blasts him. Munguia went 12 good rounds with Canelo whilst Plant was KOed like a bum. Bernard Hopkins should make a comeback??
                  Mayweather has 22 world champs on his resume in 50 fights. How is his record padded?

                  Comment

                  Working...
                  TOP