Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Don't presume that Canelo beats Crawford just because he's bigger

[hugh grant]

Make the fight. Its harder said than done, but all Bud has to do is hit Nelo, more than Nelo hits Bud. Sure Nelo will have more power and take the punches better. But skills pay the bills. Sure Nelos power might make BUd more defensive, then so be it. Bud will throw less, so he will have to try get hit less too.

[TonyRespectful]

You mean like lil Floyd? Because that little dude smacked the living hell outa Canelo.

So since by your moniker you profess to respect facts wouldn’t you agree the Canelo that lost to Floyd is a much better and bigger fighter now ?And no mention of the Floyd enforced catchweight ? Just another fact .

[crimsonfalcon07]

People really acting like Canelo wouldn't have battered Madrimov all over the ring, herky jerky movement or not? Bud will be slower at 168. This happens every time fighters move up multiple divisions, especially when there's more space between. They think they can jump around because they're not fighting at their walking weights, and then they can't perform like they thought they could, and they think they just had an off night. Weight classes exist for a reason. Canelo has fully settled into 168 and Bud hasn't even settled into 154. They're acting like Canelo doesn't train consistently in the gym just as Crawford does? He's gonna look just like Charlo did, and I picked him to beat Spence before the fight.

[TonyRespectful]

If Bud survives 12 rounds he’ll be awarded the decision over Canelo . All he has to do is keep it fairly close . And Canelo knows he’ll never get a fair decision with Turkey promoting .I hope he never lets Bud or Benavidez make any money off his clout . Canelo doesn’t need them .They need Canelo .

[Brittney1229]

You mean like lil Floyd? Because that little dude smacked the living hell outa Canelo.

Before I answer, please don't come off thinking I'm a Canelo fan, because I am not! The 23 year old Canelo, before his prime, did get smacked around by Floyd. Canelo a 100 times better than the one that got beat by Floyd. Like him or not, he's a great fighter. He's not only 14lbs bigger, but he is very skilled. IMO Bud cannot hurt Canelo. He's getting walked down and the beating is gonna start around round 6. Bud gets brutalized to the body and then, like the much bigger Plant, he gets caught late and ko'd.

[factsarenice]

I see people are still pushing this Canelo vs Crawford narrative and Bread follows suit in continuing the conversation. I understand the aspect of how a great smaller guy can beat a bigger guy, after all, it has happened in boxing before. But let's get one thing straight, Crawford is a very good fighter, maybe even just a good fighter, he's not a ATG. Who has Crawford exactly beat to be considered Great? You can even make the argument that we don't even know if he's even really good because his choices off opponents leaves a lot to be desired.

Times in history where a smaller fighters have beaten bigger fighters, for the most part, it's been situations where the bigger guy is older at the tail end of their career and the smaller guy is younger, age plays the a part in it as well. Canelo is in the twilight of his career but at 36 soon to be 37, Crawford is also close to the end .

And finally, Bread mentioned how they're the same height and that Crawford has longer reach, and because he's more mobile, that would give Canelo issues. Now, people make the comparisons on size and always talk about height or reach or whatever you want to throw out there. What matters is not height or reach, when you size up fighters, especially in these situations where a way smaller fighter is moving up, you have to look at body mass, girth, that is what will play more of a factor, and if you compare that, Canelo is much, much bigger than Crawford. People forget that Crawford started at 130, he's considerably smaller, you want to talk about the advantages of Crawford which would probably be speed ( I think people underestimate Canelo speed) and foot work, that will all be negated for the simple fact that he has to pack on weight, most of it would be muscle, which last time I checked, is not good for speed. If he decided to come in much lighter, that can be an issue as well. I won't even get into that when you're fighting bigger guys, one of the hardest things to deal with is having that bigger guys weight constantly weighing on you through out the fight will tire you out because you're not used to dealing with that amount of weight.

In the end, it's boxing and anything can happen, fighters are human and can get sick, have a bad camp, ect, ect, there's a lot that can happen. But after Crawford's last outing against a bigger guy, who's not as big as Canelo and definitely nowhere near Canelo caliber, if you have a 100% Canelo and a 100% Crawford at 168, no catch weights, no restrictions, there's no way in hell Crawford wins, as a matter of fact, he would get knocked out, maybe even get really hurt and if you are seriously pushing this fight and think Crawford has a chance, it's probably because you're a Crawford fan and have blinders. There's only one real reason Crawford is pushing this fight and it's money, he knows that he can cash out and retire after the fight, and he's willing to risk it because the excuse of, well, I gave a shot, and he was way too big and most likely people will cut him a break because of that.

First paragraph makes is a baseless opinion and without that, your argument goes to crap! You sound like some super-duper fan, Canelo PR guy defending a cherry picker because he earned the right to avoid Mexicans or anyone that beat his ass. That said, I'll make believe your not and try to give the perspective from plant earth.

Here is why the fight should happen but won't because Canelo only fights easy hand picked opponents. Ready? Lots of people thought Lara beat prime Canelo, Crawford smokes every version of Lara, little Floyd moved his feet and easily beat Canelo and lastly.....styles make fights. Canelo is demanding more money to fight Crawford then Canelo made in his last 4 fights combined.

Stylistically, the fight looks to be as competitive Lenard/Haggler, Floyd/Canelo, or Lara/Canelo and far more competitive then Belanga for 15 times more money because styles make fights. Let me repeat that, styles make fights. But fear not, the fight will never happen because Canelo sees something in Crawford he also sees in Morrell, Benavidez.

But hey, I respect what you're doing here, even Cherry pickers need to someone to rationalize what they are doing.

[TonyRespectful]

First paragraph makes is a baseless opinion and without that, your argument goes to crap! You sound like some super-duper fan, Canelo PR guy defending a cherry picker because he earned the right to avoid Mexicans or anyone that beat his ass. That said, I'll make believe your not and try to give the perspective from plant earth.

Here is why the fight should happen but won't because Canelo only fights easy hand picked opponents. Ready? Lots of people thought Lara beat prime Canelo, Crawford smokes every version of Lara, little Floyd moved his feet and easily beat Canelo and lastly.....styles make fights. Canelo is demanding more money to fight Crawford then Canelo made in his last 4 fights combined.

Stylistically, the fight looks to be as competitive Lenard/Haggler, Floyd/Canelo, or Lara/Canelo and far more competitive then Belanga for 15 times more money because styles make fights. Let me repeat that, styles make fights. But fear not, the fight will never happen because Canelo sees something in Crawford he also sees in Morrell, Benavidez.

But hey, I respect what you're doing here, even Cherry pickers need to someone to rationalize what they are doing.

Facts are nice ! But you don’t use any only your opinions. Maybe change your name ?

[factsarenice]

Solid mailbag as always but please stop with the Bud v Canelo narrative. After seeing the Madrimov fight, am more convinced Canelo will handle Bud quite well. Canelo like Bud is a high IQ fighter who does everything 10 times better than Madrimov with pretty much all the physical advantages. Bud is undersized and pushing 38 and we see his power not carrying over to the higher weight so how the hell is he going to stop the Canelo attack. Beating Canelo at this stage is too much of an ask but ii it happens, I get the payday seeking part for both but especially for Bud. While you can argue Canelo is ducking Benny, I don't see same with Bud. It is more so of not getting the credit if it does beat Bud.

As for Boots, this mailbager does in fact has affinity for Boots as rightfully called out and it may be their Philly gyms affiliation and no issues there but if Boots's stay at 147 is for anything other than unification, he is essentially wasting his time. Boots is a big kid who can fight at 154 and I seem to hear his Dad talking about how he can beat the current 154lbers. With Turki showing no interest in 147 but rather shaking up 154 and bypassing promotional affiliation, why won't Boots move up then if no unifications at 147 instead of lining up no hopers and wasting prime years. 33 fights in and Lipinets and Villa are your best wins and now maybe Karen Chuk again, no that's not cutting it.

Another hater defending cherry pickers. I see your point because without cherry picking we would never have Jake Paul vs 60 yr old, Gotti vs Floyd or Canelo vs Berlanga for legacy. Or is it for money?

[factsarenice]

To even think that boring arse Shakur vs Tank would be a great fight is blasphemy and absurd. What on earth has Shakur ever done in the ring besides put everyone to sleep to ever be mentioned as being a great fight? Shakur just told you that he’s in it for the money. He told you he do give a sheet about what fans think.

The fact that one is managed by a rap producer and another is from the Capital means nothing. Brothers wouldn’t pay their hard earned “Bread” from their “black job” to watch Shakur. Gimme a break!

Tank is way more entertaining then Shakur but Tank also thinks Shakur is too dangerous, and that's why Tank will never allow that fight to happen. Turki will put up the money and Tank will have an excuse. I love Tank but watch and see and try not to be so dam bias.

[mike1010011]

This is an article written by a professional? The first paragraph was basically a verbal blowie excusing the ginger ducking David. Even the gingers own fans don't glaze him that much at this point. Do better my friend.