Schafer comparin Floyd to Oscar is a JOKE.

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  • DLT
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    #11
    Originally posted by savorduhflavor
    Oscar was a MUCH bigger star than Floyd. He had even more leverage over the sport than Floyd did. He could have done what Floyd is doing, but he didn't, with the exception of his last fight.

    In SPITE of the fact that Oscar could have fought bull**** opponents and gone undefeated and made a **** ton of money, he fought the absolute best. He deserves so much credit for that, he went out of his way to fight the best. He never disrespected the sport like Mayweather is. And people talk **** about Oscar, it's sad.

    Floyd has been one of my favorite fighters for as long as I can remember, but I simply can't condone his bull**** anymore. The fact that this **** is even being DISCUSSED is pathetic.
    You guys dont pay attention. Ill expose him just like I did Pac. 1st off Oscar was criticized alot when he was younger for fighting smaller guys at the smaller weights while he was huge. Then when he started fighting good guys, they were all ususally coming off of a bad fight, a loss, a draw, or whatever. He fought Tito but that was no different than Floyd fighting Chico. They were both the same size and he knew Tito was no match for his movement. He fought Mosley but Shane was just fighting at LW. He fought Vargas after Tito ruined him. He's had a ton of fights like that

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      #12
      Originally posted by DLT
      You guys dont pay attention. Ill expose him just like I did Pac. 1st off Oscar was criticized alot when he was younger for fighting smaller guys at the smaller weights while he was huge. Then when he started fighting good guys, they were all ususally coming off of a bad fight, a loss, a draw, or whatever. He fought Tito but that was no different than Floyd fighting Chico. They were both the same size and he knew Tito was no match for his movement. He fought Mosley but Shane was just fighting at LW. He fought Vargas after Tito ruined him. He's had a ton of fights like that
      Are you saying he cherrypicked Tito?

      Did he also cherrypicked Ruealas?

      What about Whitaker?

      What about Quartey?

      What about Molina?

      Did an overrated and I really mean overrated Oscar cherrypicked those 4?

      And, for the record Mosley was LW you are right. But, Mosley was a proven top 147lbs after he beat Rivera.

      So did he cherrypick Mosley too?

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      • Heru
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        #13
        I'll preface this by saying I don't like Mayweather, but I'm not a hater, so I'm a give it to you pure.

        Mayweather doesn't have Oscar's histoyr, but he's comparable. Why? Because Oscar never sold 1 mil in a supposed 'tuneup' fight. Even against Vargas and Mosley he couldn't hit 1 mil.

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        • savorduhflavor
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          #14
          Originally posted by QUELOQUE
          I'll preface this by saying I don't like Mayweather, but I'm not a hater, so I'm a give it to you pure.

          Mayweather doesn't have Oscar's histoyr, but he's comparable. Why? Because Oscar never sold 1 mil in a supposed 'tuneup' fight. Even against Vargas and Mosley he couldn't hit 1 mil.
          I aint a Mayweather hater either.

          But Floyd wasn't much of a star at all until he fought Oscar. Oscar didn't go up against the biggest draw in history to build his name...

          Either way, thats not even the point. The point is that while Oscar could have handpicked his opponents, he had that leverage, he fought the best. I have so much respect for that.

          I can only hope Mayweather eventually does that.

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            #15
            Originally posted by QUELOQUE
            I'll preface this by saying I don't like Mayweather, but I'm not a hater, so I'm a give it to you pure.

            Mayweather doesn't have Oscar's histoyr, but he's comparable. Why? Because Oscar never sold 1 mil in a supposed 'tuneup' fight. Even against Vargas and Mosley he couldn't hit 1 mil.
            But, Oscar never had 24/7. Think about how much 24/7 helps the PPV sales.

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            • DLT
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              #16
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              Are you saying he cherrypicked Tito?

              Did he also cherrypicked Ruealas?

              What about Whitaker?

              What about Quartey?

              What about Molina?

              Did an overrated and I really mean overrated Oscar cherrypicked those 4?

              And, for the record Mosley was LW you are right. But, Mosley was a proven top 147lbs after he beat Rivera.

              So did he cherrypick Mosley too?
              He didnt cherry pick Tito but that fight was no different than Floyd vs Pac. A big money fight that he saw as very winnable. Why wouldnt he fight him? Again, Quartay had just had like a loss or a draw right before that fight and had been dropped twice. He's had a big history like that. Go look at boxrec and then look at his opponents before he faced them. He waits to see you vulnerable or he picks you because he has a size advantage

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              • Al Haymon
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                #17
                Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                Oscar was a MUCH bigger star than Floyd. He had even more leverage over the sport than Floyd did. He could have done what Floyd is doing, but he didn't, with the exception of his last fight.
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                The numbers are indicating otherwise.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DLT
                  He didnt cherry pick Tito but that fight was no different than Floyd vs Pac. A big money fight that he saw as very winnable. Why wouldnt he fight him? Again, Quartay had just had like a loss or a draw right before that fight and had been dropped twice. He's had a big history like that. Go look at boxrec and then look at his opponents before he faced them. He waits to see you vulnerable or he picks you because he has a size advantage
                  I don't need to look at boxrec. You might look at boxrec to get your info. I know my history. Quartey had a a draw against maestrito Lopez who was top 10 mabye top 5 WW at the time. And, Quartey should of gotten the decision.

                  Ruelas was on a winning streak. Gonzalez was undefeated and looking good, Molina winning streak. Hernandez was undefeated, Whitaker was on a winning streak and was coming off come from behind devastating KO of Hurtado, Mosley was undefeated and beat decisevely a top 10 WW.

                  Oscar was the money maker, He didn't need to fight Tito he could of made money withou him, he didn't need to fight Mosley, he didn't need to fight Hopkins, he didn't need to fight, Floyd, he didn't need to fight Pac. But, he did,

                  By, the way Ruelas and Tito were the same size as Oscar and B-Hop was way bigger than Oscar.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Al Haymon
                    The numbers are indicating otherwise.
                    Serious question no hating or nuthugging involved. How much do you think 24/7 helps to sell PPV fights?

                    If Oscar had 24/7 with the likes of Tito, Vargas, Hopkins, and Mayorga. Would he have done the same #'s or done more?

                    If Floyd did not have 24/7 would he get the same #'s or less?

                    If Pac did not have 24/7 would he get the same #'s or less?

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