Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez on Turki Alalshikh: 'It's his problem, not mine. I didn't ask for a fight'

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  • kiaba360
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    #41
    Originally posted by El_Mero
    Fcuk Ginger and Wahid. If they don't want to be a part of this movement, that's fine. There's plenty of fights Alalshik can make happen. Freckles is good fighting undeserving cherry picks and Wahid can continue to fight no hopers and those he can put stipulations on.
    I see many are beginning to frame this as Turki being the "oppressor" that all the promoters suck up to while Canelo is the "rebel". They don't have to do business together, but people trying to make Canelo seem like he's standing up for Boxing.....give me a fxcking break.

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      #42
      Originally posted by kiaba360

      I see many are beginning to frame this as Turki being the "oppressor" that all the promoters suck up to while Canelo is the "rebel". They don't have to do business together, but people trying to make Canelo seem like he's standing up for Boxing.....give me a fxcking break.
      I definitely do not think that Turki is an oppressor as he's actually offering boxers more than any other promoter and I haven't read a post that states that Ginger is standing up for Boxing.

      Many figures in Boxing, kissing Turki's a$$ seems to be what is rubbing fans the wrong way. Turki could have easily respected Ginger's position to wait till after he fought Berlanga. Why didn't Turki respectfully agree to resume negotiations after Ginger's upcoming scrap? Instead, the man starts acting like a jaded teenage girl on social media. How do you respond to that? Also, I think it was in this forum that a poster claimed that the Saudis are attempting to Sports-wash past and present government suppression and abysmal human rights record through Boxing. Not sure if true or not but it is a bit concerning.

      Ginger can care less about standing up for boxing. All he cares about before retiring, which will be pretty soon, is making as much dough as he can, fighting whom ever he wants to fight on his terms. Sucks for fans who want to see him fight Benavidez and other top fighters who might or will beat him. I mean, I'd like to say "screw that prick" but I might do the same if i were in his shoes.
      Last edited by LarryMerchant'sBottle; 08-09-2024, 01:08 PM.

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        #43
        It doesn't have to be Turki doing the Canelo/Crawford fight. If fans want it, why can't PBC do it?

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          #44
          Originally posted by Bullrider
          It doesn't have to be Turki doing the Canelo/Crawford fight. If fans want it, why can't PBC do it?
          I don't believe PBC or anyone else can offer what it would take to make this fight happen. Shoot, Turki might not be willing to pay what it would take to satisfy both Ginger and Bud.

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            #45
            turki needs to start offering KD & KO bonus payments

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              #46
              Originally posted by LarryMerchant'sBottle

              I definitely do not think that Turki is an oppressor as he's actually offering boxers more than any other promoter and I haven't read a post that states that Ginger is standing up for Boxing.

              Many figures in Boxing, kissing Turki's a$$ seems to be what is rubbing fans the wrong way. Turki could have easily respected Ginger's position to wait till after he fought Berlanga. Why didn't Turki respectfully agree to resume negotiations after Ginger's upcoming scrap? Instead, the man starts acting like a jaded teenage girl on social media. How do you respond to that? Also, I think it was in this forum that a poster claimed that the Saudis are attempting to whitewash past and present government suppression and abysmal human rights record through Boxing. Not sure if true or not but it is a bit concerning.

              Ginger can care less about standing up for boxing. All he cares about before retiring, which will be pretty soon, is making as much dough as he can, fighting whom ever he wants to fight on his terms. Sucks for fans who want to see him fight Benavidez and other top fighters who might or will beat him. I mean, I'd like to say "screw that prick" but I might do the same if i were in his shoes.
              Fans are framing this like little red riding hood Canelo is standing up to the big bad wolf Turki, but in reality Canelo has had Boxing by the cajones for years. Canelo represents the status quo, and Turki is looking to use his wealth to disrupt the status quo. They're supposed to be rivals. Promoters should be kissing his ass because he's helping to fund their events. "Sports-washing" is the term you're looking for. Boxing is just one of many sports.

              I think Turki has learned from Eddie Hearn about the importance of building a public persona and maintaining an online presence, but I would prefer if he stayed behind the scenes and be more of a silent partner. Even Eddie has had to learn when to shut the hell up.

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              • LarryMerchant'sBottle
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                #47
                Originally posted by Smash
                turki needs to start offering KD & KO bonus payments
                That sure would add excitement to many fights. Not a bad idea when you think about it.

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                  #48
                  Can hardly wait to see where Canelo will run when no one wants to give him that 35 million guarantee

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                  • LarryMerchant'sBottle
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by kiaba360

                    Fans are framing this like little red riding hood Canelo is standing up to the big bad wolf Turki, but in reality Canelo has had Boxing by the cajones for years. Canelo represents the status quo, and Turki is looking to use his wealth to disrupt the status quo. They're supposed to be rivals. Promoters should be kissing his ass because he's helping to fund their events. "Sports-washing" is the term you're looking for. Boxing is just one of many sports.

                    I think Turki has learned from Eddie Hearn about the importance of building a public persona and maintaining an online presence, but I would prefer if he stayed behind the scenes and be more of a silent partner. Even Eddie has had to learn when to shut the hell up.
                    I was only speaking about fans on this forum and maybe another that I visit, but you might correct that fans overall feel that way. I admit to being ignorant to what other fans might be saying or feeling. "Sports-washing" is indeed what I meant to say, thanks for the correction, don't know where my mind was, I will edit.

                    I totally agree with your last paragraph..

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                    • Verus
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by kiaba360

                      I see many are beginning to frame this as Turki being the "oppressor" that all the promoters suck up to while Canelo is the "rebel". They don't have to do business together, but people trying to make Canelo seem like he's standing up for Boxing.....give me a fxcking break.
                      No one is saying Canelo is standing up for boxing. He is simply standing up for himself. I can't say the same for the gaggle of sycophants and bootlickers that are bowing and scraping before Mr.Turki, or is it His Excellency. This is not some slave colony where everyone has to smile and cower before the master, lest he be displeased

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