Shakur is boring and that's just what it is.

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  • Pac=Duran
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    #21
    Originally posted by Mammoth
    Nobody is saying that to hate on the guy it's just a fact. He walked Artem what's his face down and his home town still walked out on his fight. Watching Bivol is ****ing enthralling in comparison.
    Looks like the Floyd scam was a one and done type of thing.

    People in this day and age aren't going to a boxing match to see pot shotting. We want a tear up, with risky styles

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    • Carpe Diem
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      #22
      Originally posted by Pac=Duran

      Looks like the Floyd scam was a one and done type of thing.

      People in this day and age aren't going to a boxing match to see pot shotting. We want a tear up, with risky styles
      Man, stop with the Floyd comparison. Even an older version of Floyd was more exciting than Shakur. Some of you guys let y’all personal hatred get in the way of how you see certain boxers. Yes, Floyd wasn’t highly entertaining offensively, but what really separated him was his unique ability to effortlessly and effectively transition from offense to defense and vice versa, the ability to create openings by baiting his opponent to do exactly what he wanted them to do and then capitalized by countering them. Shakur doesn’t have that, he’s either too defensively minded, or he’s very basic with his offense with no creativity, he can’t really transition as smoothly and effortlessly as Floyd did. Put some ****ing resPEK on Floyd’s name!
      Last edited by Carpe Diem; 07-07-2024, 10:22 AM.

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      • brettWall
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        #23
        Have never seen a fight where a fighter walks down his opponent and still looked boring to watch. Frank Martin did 3 times better, entertainment wise.

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        • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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          #24
          Originally posted by MusoMeanderings

          Not to mention the constant fouling, home judges, smug personality and non-stop preaching.
          Ward seemingly irked quite a lot of people, I always thought he was ok personality wise.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Elheath
            Boxers doing everything within the rules of boxing to win is fully allowed so good for him. However Shakur needs to get it through his head that if he also want the cash, he needs to make himself a high reward target. The more he talks, the more it is proving that refusing a 25 pay for Haney was pure ******ity on his side.

            If he was the boring, featherfisted undisputed lightweight champ right now he would still have multiple top opponent lined up to fight him and he would be the A-side as the champ with all the belts.
            Instead he is a boring, featherfisted lightweight single belt holder who is a high risk low reward that others don't see a merit in fighting. People would rather fight Tank for the money or Loma for the name and legacy for the high risk single belt, or go for Berinchyk if they want a low risk single belt.

            The results aside, Haney got Loma, Prograis, and Garcia essentially off having been "undisputed lightweight champ" in a span of a year while Shakur had DLR and Artem Har-something. Shakur could've gotten Haney last fall, Loma this spring, then maybe possibly Zepeda or even a stay busy with Martin while egging Tank.
            He's just dumb as rocks and no self awareness.

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            • johncods
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              #26
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              Isn’t that what a promoter is truly for- matchmaking properly to build interest in a boxer?

              Had Bob put him in with Valdez and Loma earlier, he’d have looked dynamic in big wins. Bob protected them and instead fed a string of low reward, high risk bums to Shakur. He did Shakur no favors.

              Just look at who he put Davis in with tonight. That guy constantly coming forward and Shakur would look absolutely dynamic.

              Instead he puts him in with Davis where it becomes a foul filled disgrace of a sh-tshow.
              Lol buddy have you not watched Shakurs fights? You put a guy who comes forward and he will run away.. lol Guy just has ZERO power and ZERO dawg in him.

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              • HanzGruber
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                #27
                Originally posted by Pac=Duran

                Looks like the Floyd scam was a one and done type of thing.

                People in this day and age aren't going to a boxing match to see pot shotting. We want a tear up, with risky styles
                Lol stop it. Floyd didn’t fight like that til he was in his 4th weight class and he was much more entertaining to watch than shakur. It’s not like he’s fighting the best of the best and schooling them.

                even RIGO has a higher ko% than shakur

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Carpe Diem

                  Man, stop with the Floyd comparison. Even an older version of Floyd was more exciting than Shakur. Some of you guys let y’all personal hatred get in the way of how you see certain boxers. Yes, Floyd wasn’t highly entertaining offensively, but what really separated him was his unique ability to effortlessly and effectively transition from offense to defense and vice versa, the ability to create openings by baiting his opponent to do exactly what he wanted them to do and then capitalized by countering them. Shakur doesn’t have that, he’s either too defensively minded, or he’s very basic with his offense with no creativity, he can’t really transition as smoothly and effortlessly as Floyd did. Put some ****ing resPEK on Floyd’s name!
                  lol Floyd was the most accurate striker in history

                  to me the ugliest fooking style is a sloppy guy who misses a lot and rarely lands cleanly but throws a lot

                  Shawn Porter

                  or a super negative style that cancels out fighting

                  Sergio Mora

                  Shakur is alright. He’s accurate, throws combinations, fights inside, and slique

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                  • Mammoth
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                    Isn’t that what a promoter is truly for- matchmaking properly to build interest in a boxer?

                    Had Bob put him in with Valdez and Loma earlier, he’d have looked dynamic in big wins. Bob protected them and instead fed a string of low reward, high risk bums to Shakur. He did Shakur no favors.

                    Just look at who he put Davis in with tonight. That guy constantly coming forward and Shakur would look absolutely dynamic.

                    Instead he puts him in with Davis where it becomes a foul filled disgrace of a sh-tshow.
                    Shakur could have fought Josh Warrington but didn't. It would have raised his profile. That's not on Bob either. Madueno is Jezreel Corrales leftovers and wasn't really a good opponent for either.

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                    • Mammoth
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                      Reminds me of Ward. Undoubtedly talented but not entertaining and will likely never be a draw.
                      Ward wasn't anywhere near as boring as Shakur

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