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Ryan Garcia expelled by WBC after George Floyd comments, n-word usage, anti-****** remarks

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  • #71
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    Come on bro. You’re stretching this at a Plastic Man , Mr. Fantastic level. I think you need to admit the comments are nothing alike.

    What Floyd said was in poor taste and wrong. No question. Because they are race related he apologized for it. He never said he hated ch- nks or any ethnic slur so equating them in any way is utterly disingenuous. Clearly different from what Ryan stated.

    You are stretching again. You have decided what Floyd doesn’t like based on stereotypes that you have heard in society. Not from Floyd directly.

    You also are referencing Floyd’s comments made about a potential opponent for him, and a potential opponent for a boxer he promoted. Not all Asians.

    What did he say bad about Inoue? Have you heard something I haven’t?

    Ok you believe that to be the case in terms of aura. That doesn’t mean it applies to everyone just because you feel that.

    Respectfully, nothing Floyd has said directly indicates he doesn’t like it when Asian boxers get highly rated. He, to my knowledge, has never spoken about any Asian boxers other than the above, in the context above. Again, I haven’t heard him say anything negative, especially nothing racist, about Inoue.

    You keep making generalizations and a whole narrative about not liking whites, Asians or Hispanics without anything substantial to back it up. That is scary.

    I am willing to read any comments you are aware of that I am not. I just don’t think it accurate to base your opinions on aura or beliefs you have rather than concrete facts or statements, like we are doing with Ryan.
    Again, I said in both post 44 and the last one that I am absolutely NOT equating Garcia's disgusting level of fullblown obvious racism to Floyd's underlying overall disrespect toward Asians just stems from racist opinions.

    I don't know maybe if our definition of racism is different which is what is causing this disagreement but I define racism, as to borrow the dictionary definition, "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group"​

    So, for me in order to be considered to have racist opinions you don't have to actually have caused physical harm or state openly to the public your hopes and intent to have bad things to occur to a certain group based on their race like Garcia does. He is a whole another level of a POS racist well above Floyd but we both are in agreement with from the beginning.

    And regarding Inoue and Mayweather, the first time I got the clear impression that Floyd didn't respect his existence was his denial to say his name in any way. I forgot exactly which article title but it was one of the many that came out around the time when Inoue went undisputed for first time in bantamweight, that Floyd kept on referring to Inoue as something in the line of "that little Asian guy" multiple times, and kept on repeating "I don't know him" and the likes throughout the whole conversation.

    I don't think Floyd was truly unaware of boxing news in general or too dumb to seriously not be capable of recalling Inoue's name around that time when you heard it many times despite being a promoter in the boxing industry and he himself a former boxer known worldwide. Even if he personally didn't care about the lighter division, with the the amount of press in the boxing industry they had regarding Ee-know-way, as the US commentators pronounce Inoue, essentially trying to make sure the world knows that Inoue isn't considered important enough for the great Floyd Mayweather to care about his name was quite obvious.

    Then, the first time he actually mentioned the term "Inoue" in a published interview I saw was after Fulton match, where he basically said something like "Inoue, he's solid, but Fulton isn't great (so a win against him isn't that impressive), Inoue also struggled against that Filipino (Donaire), Inoue needs to fight in America getting tested (implying the reason he is strong is PEDs)" and so on essentially copying what the openly known to be the favorite statements Inoue haters repeat on NSB. I also think Curmel Moton specifically mentioning Inoue during his presser after his fight to say "he's a solid boxer, but when all is said and done, I think I will end up better" had some kind of input from Mayweather in his name choice. If he wanted to sound brazen it could've been Crawford or Tank for that matter.

    Adding those comments with his long term view toward Pacquiao makes me hard to believe he is just doing it for the promotion of his boxers, and not a generic lack of respect against Asian boxers. Has Mayweather called Loma "that little European"?

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    • #72
      Love how his supporters have basically ruined their own reputations and had to create alt accounts just so they could continue to post here lol

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      • #73
        ryan garcia
        WBC
        George Floyd

        Is there a joke in here somewhere?

        3 crooks?
        1 martyr
        2 junkies
        3 good guys?

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Elheath View Post
          Being fair racism and preferential treatment exists everywhere outside US as well, however the level of it being obvious and the actual harms caused by it tends to seem higher in America.

          Another thing I personally felt...Americans seems more likely to deny having underlying racist opinions because they believe they are Americans who lives in the meltingpot of races and therefore successful being fair to others.
          It does but for some of us who had the chance to fly everywhere and who grew up out side of the USA, what you see here is awful. It is ignorant and awful.

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          • #75
            Ryan is crashing out lol

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            • #76
              Originally posted by eco1 View Post

              It does but for some of us who had the chance to fly everywhere and who grew up out side of the USA, what you see here is awful. It is ignorant and awful.
              Oh I know, I literally grew up going between US and Japan. I just didn't know the experience I was having as a child at school and the neighborhood had a term associated to it (racism) until I grew up older and started seeing stuff from the outside view.

              By the way I was an Asian American living in New York when the shooting a teenage Japanese exchange student Yoshinori Hattori to death was initially not charged by the police, but upon protest from the Japanese consul the man was finally charged for manslaughter but ultimately deemed not guilty by the jury and let off free of charge. To use the wife's words to describe the victim and why she felt scared, "He was taller than me and his skin was darker colored"...well I guess yellow is certainly darker than white by definition.
              eco1 eco1 likes this.

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              • #77
                No wonder he threw his support behind the inbred, orange, convicted fraudster/r@pist and baby-mushroomed felon.
                just the facts just the facts likes this.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by just the facts View Post
                  The WBC is showboating. As soon as there’s money to be made on a Garcia fight, they’ll backpedal on this.
                  Truer words have never been typed on this forum.

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