Ryan Garcia expelled by WBC after George Floyd comments, n-word usage, anti-****** remarks

[Elheath]

You’re a solid poster. So allow me the following response.

You are saying Floyd has “underlying racist opinions against Asians” based on the following:

As soon as we come off vacation, we're going to cook that little yellow chump. We ain't worried about that. So they ain't gotta worry about me fighting the midget. Once I kick the midget ass, I don't want you all to jump on my d---. So you all better get on the bandwagon now. ... Once I stomp the midget, I'll make that mother f----- make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice."

" 'Poochiao' got three losses and two draws and been knocked out twice," Mayweather said. "So, like I said before, once I beat him it's going to be a cakewalk and it's on to the next. ... We know Pacquiao made $6 million in his last fight and Floyd Mayweather made $65 million in his last fight. Three losses, two draws. Ohhh, hell no, this is America baby. We built on winning. Step your game up, f----t. ... That mother f----- Pacquiao, he can't speak no English. He never seen a contract he didn't like. Mother f----- signed with two companies [Top Rank and Golden Boy]. Look it up. And then this mother f------ with Nike only got 70 Gs. How ****** can a mother f----- be? Reebok gave me a million dollars for three weeks. I wore Reebok s--- for a week for a million dollars. ... This mother f------'s name is Emmanuel. He got a fake name, taking power pellets".

Those comments are just about Manny.

Garcia said: "I hate n******, I'm anti-black, I'm the KKK. Hey, let's go bring George Floyd back to life and go kill that n***** again."

There is a CLEAR difference in these two quotes. You are willing to equate the quotes when Floyd speaks only about Manny. Ryan talks about all black people.

You stated Floyd’s comments have an underlying disrespect toward Asians. I am curious, why are you saying that when the comments are clearly about 1 Asian person, not all of them?

Well his comments toward Inoue in general also has a lot of backhanded underlying disrespect almost everytime he speaks of him, so that is at the minimum two Asian people. What they both have in common is that they are both SUCCESSFUL Asian boxers that people tend to talk about in the highest tier of boxing.

By the way just in case to repeat my opinion in regard to Garcia, copy of my post 44 is the basic foundation of it:
"Cryan Garcia is an overrated racist, drug addict, and mentally instable essentially retired former boxer who never won a world title and overall accomplished nothing worth mentioning in boxing but was a social media "star" for a mysterious reason for all I care. He won't be missed and hopefully by next year he is a forgotten man.

People comparing his antics with Mayweather's racist comments and claiming all racism is equal and should be treated the same way are grasping for the straws. Extreme example, but shooting ******* and acids and whatever else on a normal basis isn't the same as those who smoke marijuana in states they aren't allowed in aren't equal. Sure they both are "drug users", but not the same level..."

With that being said, Mayweather definitely does not like it when an Asian boxer gets highly rated in any way because they are supposed to be a group of short, weak, and lesser athletes compared to the tall and strong black men like him, and should not be allowed to get limelight in "his" sport. I'm not necessarily saying he must praise him or anything to not be a racist against them at heart, but being an Asian having lived in both USA and Japan for decades, it is the aura of "you aren't black nor white nor latin, so it can't be that you be better than us especially in America" that I have seen and felt many times that is hard to explain in words but definitely exists.

Floyd likes fellow black boxers, that is natural and there is nothing wrong with that.
Floyd doesn't like white boxers in general, but he simply does not like white boxers because they are white, and doesn't get past generic white boy comments other black boxers would make as well.
However Floyd doesn't like SUCCESSFUL Asian boxers because they are stepping on territory that he deems the lesser Asians are not allowed to be good in that territory more than black boxers...or even white or hispanic for that matter because they are a race that is supposed to be second tier. That is the underlying disrespect, compared to the simple dislike he has against white people.

[eco1]

everyone who was born and grew up in the States is a racist. Everyone.

Lucky for others that grew up in a different country and flew to so many that understood that we are all human and should treat everyone with respect, even those who were born and grew up being s t u p i d and ignorant.

[just the facts]

The WBC is showboating. As soon as there’s money to be made on a Garcia fight, they’ll backpedal on this.

[Elheath]

everyone who was born and grew up in the States is a racist. Everyone.

Lucky for others that grew up in a different country and flew to so many that understood that we are all human and should treat everyone with respect, even those who were born and grew up being s t u p i d and ignorant.

Being fair racism and preferential treatment exists everywhere outside US as well, however the level of it being obvious and the actual harms caused by it tends to seem higher in America.

Another thing I personally felt...Americans seems more likely to deny having underlying racist opinions because they believe they are Americans who lives in the meltingpot of races and therefore successful being fair to others.

[billeau2]

what did he say?

I would tell you but I would be permabanned for two reincarnations.

[billeau2]

Hopkins, Dirrell, and Haney all used some variation of the "I'll never let a white boy beat me" nonsense and nothing happened to them. It appears like there's a different set of rules when it comes to trash talk...solely dependent on the race of the person doing the talking, and the race of the person being talked about. Why did Malignaggi get fired from Showtime again, despite being their best commentator? Exactly.

Also, LMFAO @ that article claiming the career criminal/junkie who was miraculously yelling "I can't breathe" (because yelling is definitely something you can do if you actually can't breathe, right?) was "murdered by Minneapolis police in 2020." Prime example of fake news.

The double standard you mention is an OPINION. Some people will agree, others disagree... Ditto for the George Floyd responsibility.
The statement you made about breathing is a dangerous and ignorant bit of misinformation that people repeat at times because it seems logical. I say this purely in the interest of understanding... You can be suffocating to death and be able to speak clearly. When weight is compressed your body is unable to take a breath in, you are using air you have, unable to draw enough new air in... It is an excrutiating, terrifying and painful way to die.

Again, not taking any opinions here... But people please!!!! Compressing a person on the ground can easily sufficate them.

[Elheath]

I fully acknowledge that I am about to open a gigantic rotten can of worms, but everytime the whole George Floyd issue gets mentioned, it makes me wonder why he was made a martyr while someone like Breonna Taylor seems to be totally forgotten (be honest, how many people who knows Floyd can explain exactly who Taylor was right now without googling the name?), despite having an even better case than Floyd has when it comes to victim of racism and police brutality. At least in America literally everyone seems to know of George Floyd regardless of their opinions on him whether good or bad, anything ranging from an innocent victim of racism and police brutality or a perennial criminal drug addict who was killed while trying to flee.

I personally think Taylor would've made a much better symbol to rally on given that she was also black but younger, a female, a hardworking student in the medical field, and unlike Floyd she had no criminal record such as threatening pregnant women at gunpoint nor history of drug usage at the time she was brutally killed by police just mere few month before Floyd was. But somehow Floyd got multiple statues built and his family getting donated millions by celebrities while Taylor got...I dunno, did her loved ones get something? It never made national news like Floyd.

[Donnie Herrera]

I fully acknowledge that I am about to open a gigantic rotten can of worms, but everytime the whole George Floyd issue gets mentioned, it makes me wonder why he was made a martyr while someone like Breonna Taylor seems to be totally forgotten (be honest, how many people who knows Floyd can explain exactly who Taylor was right now without googling the name?), despite having an even better case than Floyd has when it comes to victim of racism and police brutality. At least in America literally everyone seems to know of George Floyd regardless of their opinions on him whether good or bad, anything ranging from an innocent victim of racism and police brutality or a perennial criminal drug addict who was killed while trying to flee.

I personally think Taylor would've made a much better symbol to rally on given that she was also black but younger, a female, a hardworking student in the medical field, and unlike Floyd she had no criminal recordsuch as threatening pregnant women at gunpoint nor history of drug usage at the time she was brutally killed by police just mere few month before Floyd was. But somehow Floyd got multiple statues built and his family getting donated millions by celebrities while Taylor got...I dunno, did her loved ones get something? It never made national news like Floyd.

That’s why they didn’t use her!

[The Big Dunn]

Well his comments toward Inoue in general also has a lot of backhanded underlying disrespect almost everytime he speaks of him, so that is at the minimum two Asian people. What they both have in common is that they are both SUCCESSFUL Asian boxers that people tend to talk about in the highest tier of boxing.

By the way just in case to repeat my opinion in regard to Garcia, copy of my post 44 is the basic foundation of it:
"Cryan Garcia is an overrated racist, drug addict, and mentally instable essentially retired former boxer who never won a world title and overall accomplished nothing worth mentioning in boxing but was a social media "star" for a mysterious reason for all I care. He won't be missed and hopefully by next year he is a forgotten man.

People comparing his antics with Mayweather's racist comments and claiming all racism is equal and should be treated the same way are grasping for the straws. Extreme example, but shooting ******* and acids and whatever else on a normal basis isn't the same as those who smoke marijuana in states they aren't allowed in aren't equal. Sure they both are "drug users", but not the same level..."

With that being said, Mayweather definitely does not like it when an Asian boxer gets highly rated in any way because they are supposed to be a group of short, weak, and lesser athletes compared to the tall and strong black men like him, and should not be allowed to get limelight in "his" sport. I'm not necessarily saying he must praise him or anything to not be a racist against them at heart, but being an Asian having lived in both USA and Japan for decades, it is the aura of "you aren't black nor white nor latin, so it can't be that you be better than us especially in America" that I have seen and felt many times that is hard to explain in words but definitely exists.

Floyd likes fellow black boxers, that is natural and there is nothing wrong with that.
Floyd doesn't like white boxers in general, but he simply does not like white boxers because they are white, and doesn't get past generic white boy comments other black boxers would make as well.
However Floyd doesn't like SUCCESSFUL Asian boxers because they are stepping on territory that he deems the lesser Asians are not allowed to be good in that territory more than black boxers...or even white or hispanic for that matter because they are a race that is supposed to be second tier. That is the underlying disrespect, compared to the simple dislike he has against white people.

Come on bro. You’re stretching this at a Plastic Man , Mr. Fantastic level. I think you need to admit the comments are nothing alike.

What Floyd said was in poor taste and wrong. No question. Because they are race related he apologized for it. He never said he hated ch- nks or any ethnic slur so equating them in any way is utterly disingenuous. Clearly different from what Ryan stated.

You are stretching again. You have decided what Floyd doesn’t like based on stereotypes that you have heard in society. Not from Floyd directly.

You also are referencing Floyd’s comments made about a potential opponent for him, and a potential opponent for a boxer he promoted. Not all Asians.

What did he say bad about Inoue? Have you heard something I haven’t?

Ok you believe that to be the case in terms of aura. That doesn’t mean it applies to everyone just because you feel that.

Respectfully, nothing Floyd has said directly indicates he doesn’t like it when Asian boxers get highly rated. He, to my knowledge, has never spoken about any Asian boxers other than the above, in the context above. Again, I haven’t heard him say anything negative, especially nothing racist, about Inoue.

You keep making generalizations and a whole narrative about not liking whites, Asians or Hispanics without anything substantial to back it up. That is scary.

I am willing to read any comments you are aware of that I am not. I just don’t think it accurate to base your opinions on aura or beliefs you have rather than concrete facts or statements, like we are doing with Ryan.

[The Big Dunn]

I fully acknowledge that I am about to open a gigantic rotten can of worms, but everytime the whole George Floyd issue gets mentioned, it makes me wonder why he was made a martyr while someone like Breonna Taylor seems to be totally forgotten (be honest, how many people who knows Floyd can explain exactly who Taylor was right now without googling the name?), despite having an even better case than Floyd has when it comes to victim of racism and police brutality. At least in America literally everyone seems to know of George Floyd regardless of their opinions on him whether good or bad, anything ranging from an innocent victim of racism and police brutality or a perennial criminal drug addict who was killed while trying to flee.

I personally think Taylor would've made a much better symbol to rally on given that she was also black but younger, a female, a hardworking student in the medical field, and unlike Floyd she had no criminal record such as threatening pregnant women at gunpoint nor history of drug usage at the time she was brutally killed by police just mere few month before Floyd was. But somehow Floyd got multiple statues built and his family getting donated millions by celebrities while Taylor got...I dunno, did her loved ones get something? It never made national news like Floyd.

Floyd’s case went viral because the cops gave a false report in the local newspaper. This caused people who recorded it with their phones to send in the video. The video was so drastically different than the report that it made headlines l.

Taylor was shot by cops where the only video is their cameras. The only video I recall of Taylor was released after the shooting by cops.