Comments Thread For: If it looks like a duck: Murodjon Akhmadaliev avoided by Naoya Inoue?

[Elheath]

Also, whatever Arum says holds no water good or bad because he says everything on the moment.

Ohashi said it most understandable straight forward way the day WBA announced the mandatory: "Why are they telling us this now when we already were pretty deeply planned with September." And essentially within the day, they refused the orders without even considering to start a negotiation. MJ's status nor popularity nor this unknown cult for Doheny that Arum is starting really has absolutely nothing to do

WBA called the mandatory at that exact timing because they knew that Inoue already had a date all but scheduled in September with Doheny but just not formerly announced, and wanted to strongarm Ohashi to essentially break an agreement leaving bad blood with Doheny/Top Rank and then let MJ ***** the negotiation until purse bid so it could be bought by Saudi money.

They didn't call it before the Nery fight that the winner fights MJ next (which they should've, then everyone would've been happy). They didn't call it after the Nery fight when Ohashi started negotiation with Goodman side. They still didn't call it when the Goodman fallout was becoming real then officially dead, and while Doheny was becoming more and more realistic. They really waited until all the sports media was unofficially "reporting" Doheny a done deal then mentioned it.

[Sid-Knee]

You really don't know anything do you. You are going on info put out by western media. The notion in japan was that Japanese fight fans didn't want inoue to fight nery. And it wasn't just about money, it was also about the worry of nery coming overweight or on ped. And how do I know that. Because I'm part of Japanese boxing community.

I'm not going by any Western media. I'm going by what's happening in japan.

I've already said why Doheny was the stand in in the post you quoted. It was just in case what happened in the Yamanaka fight didn't happen again. Whether that be coming in over weight again or failing a drug test.

You haven't explained how Nery wouldn't get a payday if the fight took place outside of Japan?

[Sid-Knee]

Because there is no money. You think inoue is running a charity function. The money in mj fight is not in japan but in saudi. Turki puts the money inoue vs mj in saudi.

There's plenty of money in Japan. Why, what's the difference between the payday for MJ compared to say Tapales and others?

You even said they do what they want in Japan and won't be dictated by anyone. Yet you've said Inoue really wants to fight MJ, but they're not even fighting him. And now you're saying the fight should take place in Saudi even though you've said that Inoue is refusing to fight MJ due to not wanting to be dictated to by fighting over there. Make up your mind.

[Sid-Knee]

Didn't I say they are both crap. Not interested in inactive fighter who hasn't done **** after no looking impressive vs Tapales who Inueo already destroyed. Not interested in Doheny either. MJ is medicore I know him personally. He is an amateur fighter who is somewhat strong. Needs more skills, it's not just about power. Speed is decent. Inueo is way too smart and stronger than MJ.

You lose credibility when you say MJ is crap and has little skill. Come on. You're not still unhappy about him dominating Gonzalez where you thought you were onto a good one with him coming from a loss? MJ's a good fighter. Doheny isn't and nowhere near close to being.

[boxingitis]

You lose credibility when you say MJ is crap and has little skill. Come on. You're not still unhappy about him dominating Gonzalez where you thought you were onto a good one with him coming from a loss? MJ's a good fighter. Doheny isn't and nowhere near close to being.

Jajajaja I didn't even know who Gonzalez was. That's how weak of a competiton his facing. Skills is not his strong point.

[The Big Dunn]

Dont be ****** and ignorant.
So if a champion fighter doesnt fight every mandatory, he’s ducking?
hilarious.

How is answering your question correctly ignorant?

I didn’t post or imply a champion is ducking if he doesn’t fight the mandatory. Don’t blatantly lie because you asked a really dumb question.

The fight is earned by being the mando. Not some amorphous earning through fighting someone else your dumb question suggested.

[The Big Dunn]

Once you talked about Bob bidding. You lost all the credibility you had. Do you not understand that Bob isn't inoue's promoter. Inoue's promoter is ohashi. Bob is just inoue's US co-promoter. And Bob has no decision making in inoue's career. It's all decided by inoue and ohashi and both said they staying at 122 for 4 more fights. So he is fighting MJ.

But right now we all know why MJ fight can't happen at the moment. Because we're aware this one's on Goodman, rather than Inoue. Goodman booked Luangphon After being named Inoue's IBF mandatory. Inoue only booked Doheny to fill his calendar after Goodman ducked.

TJ Doheny is a former World Champion, has a 77% KO rate. He is ranked WBO No.2, and within top 10 for all of WBC, IBF, WBA and The Ring. And has achieved cult following in Japan. So they will sellout Arena.

Having already stopped Fulton, Tapales and Nery, and neither Goodman nor Akhmadaliev wanting to fight in the Tokyo summer, either Doheny or Casimero is about the best oppo Inoue can get. Nakatani is still in Bantam, Bam is further down, Carrington is in Feather.

So who is inoue supposed to fight? Doheny's no Akhmadaliev, but Doheny is still a better card to sell than Liam Davies, Denis McCann, Ramon Cardenas, CJ Martin etc.

Bob obviously has significant influence over Inoue’s career. Bob gave this interview. I am sure you think you know the full arrangement but don’t.

Ohashi then should outbid Hearn. Either way, 75/25 is a fair enough split.

Now we will see going forward if he does stay at 122
or he does what Bob said.

Did you just list Doherty’s rankings as if you think that makes him a tough opponent. Lmfao. Doherty is a hand selected bum designed to produce a spectacular win before going up.

You keep pivoting away from the discussion. Inoue is being held to the same standard as every other big name boxer- if you publicly avoid a fight through your promoter or co- promoter, some will see it as a duck.

As I said, imo he isn’t but is made to look like that when Bob makes excuses.

[BoxWhere]

Bob obviously has significant influence over Inoue’s career. Bob gave this interview. I am sure you think you know the full arrangement but don’t.

Ohashi then should outbid Hearn. Either way, 75/25 is a fair enough split.

Now we will see going forward if he does stay at 122
or he does what Bob said.

Did you just list Doherty’s rankings as if you think that makes him a tough opponent. Lmfao. Doherty is a hand selected bum designed to produce a spectacular win before going up.

You keep pivoting away from the discussion. Inoue is being held to the same standard as every other big name boxer- if you publicly avoid a fight through your promoter or co- promoter, some will see it as a duck.

As I said, imo he isn’t but is made to look like that when Bob makes excuses.

I don't understand that if you are dumb or just pretending. Bob has 0 influence on inoue's career. Just after Bob said inoue is moving up. Ohashi said he is staying. Bob also said inoue will never fight in US cause there is no money and he won't sellout here. But ohashi countered that and said they are going to have 1 fight in US next year.

And dohney is a former champ, who is a Southpaw that punches hard. He is picked to fillout schedule cause inoue is fighting 3 times this year. And Akhmadaliev doesn't want to fight in tokyo so what is inoue supposed to do. He can't break his fight date when the venue and agreement is already signed. And dohney was chosen because Japanese fans wanted to see inoue fight dohney. That's why dohney was the replacement for nery. If nery were to come in overweight. Which made setting up a fight with dohney very easy.

[BoxWhere]

How is answering your question correctly ignorant?

I didn’t posy or imply a champion is ducking if he doesn’t fight the mandatory. Don’t blatantly lie because you asked a really dumb question.

The fight is earned by being the mando. Not some amorphous earning through fighting someone else your dumb question suggested.

So is dohney as he is wbo no 2 ranked while goodman is no 1. But Goodman decided to go the IBF route, and giving dohney the wbo mandatory. See you are contradicting yourself.

[BoxWhere]

You lose credibility when you say MJ is crap and has little skill. Come on. You're not still unhappy about him dominating Gonzalez where you thought you were onto a good one with him coming from a loss? MJ's a good fighter. Doheny isn't and nowhere near close to being.

Who the F is Gonzalez and mj looked pure **** in that fight as well.