Euro Level Athletes VS Russians

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ethnic russians and ukranians are natural born warriors. They've fought wars for centuries against the europeans, turks, tatars, and the n-azis. The western europeans always preyed on weaker countrie like africa and india. They're not biologically devloped for hand to hand combat. White boy can't only jump. White boys also can't fight for ****.

Yes, the Brits didn't fight the Naz1's or anyone else who wasn't weak. Haha. I think you should do a bit of research.

The thread starter doesn't know what he's talking about. It seems you don't either.

Not only do we beat Mexicans and Black Americans the vast majority of the time we fight, we do likewise with Ukrainians and Russians too. We even beat their best pro ever in Kostya.

[SouthpawRight]

Brits have beaten more Black American and Mexican fighters than Russians could ever come close to doing. You clearly have little boxing knowledge to think this. But we can give it a go if you want? You list all the Black Americans and Mexicans at world level Russians have beaten. I'll then give you a much bigger list.

Russians are like Puerto Ricans in the chin department. They're fragile to say the least. Brits and Americans are above average in general. I mean, how many Russians can you name that had chins on the level of a Froch, Eubank, Calzaghe etc etc?

It seems your geography is on the same level as your boxing knowledge. Usyk, Golovkin and Loma are not Russians.

ggg’s father is an ethnic Russian

you are juggling nationality with ethnicity/genetics

Froch fell short against Ward

Eubank is not an ethnic Brit

Calz has dubs over past prime Roy [who did not age well] and Bernard

Usyk was born in Crimea where most of the inhabitants identify as Russian. As for Loma up until recently Ukraine was referred to as Little Russia. Both groups trace back to the same father civilization

Hatton beat a finished Kostya then got knocked out by the Black guy Floyd

Yes, the Brits didn't fight the Naz1's or anyone else who wasn't weak. Haha. I think you should do a bit of research.

The thread starter doesn't know what he's talking about. It seems you don't either.

Not only do Brits beat Mexicans and Black Americans the vast majority of the time we fight, we do likewise with Ukrainians and Russians too. We even beat their best pro ever in Kostya.

ethnic Brits arent in the same tier as Mexicans and Black-Americans

Alvarez feasted on a buncha brits

you’d think Brits would be in the highest league since they invented modern boxing

[SouthpawRight]

We have to go back to the old primitive days of boxing to find a real badass ethnic Brit boxer.

Bob Fitzsimmons

before modern boxing evolved. Before there was footage

All time great Mexicans and Blacks can be named off the top of one’s head

to say they’re in the same tier is asinine

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Both groups trace back to the same father civilization

yes so the war is basically some sort of big family fued

most russians are sla ves, i mean slavs

[Citizen Koba]

Greatest Russian born Boxers of All-Time

1. Vladimir Safronov, Amateur 564-1
2. Nicolai Korolyov USSR champ 1936 – 1953
3. Artur Beterbiev, 20-0-0 (20)
4. Dmitrii Bivol, 23-0-0 (12)
5. Kostya Tszyu, 31-2-0 (25)
6. Sergey Kovalev, 35-5-1 (29)
7. Alexander Povetkin, 36-3-1 (25)
8. Yuri Arbachakov, 23-1-0 (16)
9. Denis Lebedev, 32-3-0 (23)
10. Boris Lagutin, Amateur 241-11
11. Alexander Bakhtin, 31-0-0 (12)
12. Stanislav Stepashkin, Amateur 193-11
13. Valeri Popenchenko, Amateur 200-13
14. Grigory Drozd, 40‐1-0 (28)
15. Gennadiy Shatkov, Amateur 215-12
16. Sultan Ibragimov, 22-1-1 (17)
18. Boris Kuznetsov, Amateur 237-12
19. Dmitry Pirog, 20-0-0 (15)
20. Rakhim Chakhkiev, 26-3-0 (19)
21. Nikolai Valuev, 50-2-0 (34)
22. Alexei Grigoryevich Orlov, Bare knuckle 1760s
23. Denis Shafikov, 40-4-2 (20)
24. Aleksei Tishchenko, Amateur
25. Vyacheslav Lemeshev, Amateur 103-8

Ummm... there's isn't two Vladimir Safronovs is there?

https://olympics.com/en/athletes/vladimir-safronov says he's 294 of 316 (ie 294-22).. and actually identifies 3 of those losses - although apparently the Russian wiki page for him does indeed say he's 564-1. Hmm.

I'd like to think Vysotsky's name might be on that list too, although granted his record isn't really as good as his fearsome legend might suggest.

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i think russians are clearly better at drinking vodka

[SouthpawRight]

yes so the war is basically some sort of big family fued

most russians are sla ves, i mean slavs

Civil war aspect of this conflict is under appreciated

Pro-Russia separatists in the east and Ukro Neo-N azis in the west dragged half the damn country into war

Ummm... there's isn't two Vladimir Safronovs is there?

https://olympics.com/en/athletes/vladimir-safronov says he's 294 of 316 (ie 294-22).. and actually identifies 3 of those losses - although apparently the Russian wiki page for him does indeed say he's 564-1. Hmm.

I'd like to think Vysotsky's name might be on that list too, although granted his record isn't really as good as his fearsome legend might suggest.

Russian boxing was cucked for a century by the Soviet Union

Bitter sweet that the top boxer from Russia today Bivol is the purest expression of the Soviet style of boxing

[Sid-Knee]

ggg’s father is an ethnic Russian

you are juggling nationality with ethnicity/genetics

Froch fell short against Ward

Eubank is not an ethnic Brit

Calz has dubs over past prime Roy [who did not age well] and Bernard

Usyk was born in Crimea where most of the inhabitants identify as Russian. As for Loma up until recently Ukraine was referred to as Little Russia. Both groups trace back to the same father civilization

Hatton beat a finished Kostya then got knocked out by the Black guy Floyd



ethnic Brits arent in the same tier as Mexicans and Black-Americans

Alvarez feasted on a buncha brits

you’d think Brits would be in the highest league since they invented modern boxing

Who cares if Golovkin's father is ethnic Russian. He isn't. But i like the contradiction and hypocrisy of claiming Ward whose father was White.

If it's about ethnicity, then pretty much all the Mexicans and Mexican Americans are ethnically Spanish which is in Europe. Barely any of them are full native. They're all practically White. I bet we have a lot more who are ethnically British than there are those who are ethnically Mexicans.

Froch beat Dirrell and Taylor. neither had a White father. Unlike Ward.

So Black and Asian don't count even though they're the product of their environment? Don't tell me, Khan is Pakistani which produces a load of world champions. It had nothing to do with being born and raised in the UK? Naz got his capabilities from the Yemen, not the UK? Did all the Black Americans get their capabilities from Africa? Why then do they not have many champions even though the continent is massive?

Calzaghe has wins over Hopkins, Jones, Lacy, Mitchell and Brewer. All are Black Americans at world level?

Loma and Usyk very much don't identify as Russian. They're Ukrainian. But i would love for you to say that to their face. If it's to do with being part of the Soviet Union, then isn't all of the US part of the UK considering that was in the British Empire too? So many contradictions and so much hypocrisy here, it's laughable.

Kostya wasn't close to finished. He was close to his best. If it's his age, then Froch was the same age when he fought Ward. Again, another contradiction and more hypocrisy. Kostya had just come from blowing away Mitchell who was considered by many to be the best whilst Kostya was away.

Who did Canelo beat that was ethnically British and world class at their best? I'd love to see more of your contradictions and hypocrisy.

Our history is not only superior to Mexico's. It's vastly superior. We have fighters who have more ATG victories alone than all of Mexico's history combined. Educate yourself.

We are in the highest in boxing. It's why we beat Americans and Mexican the vast majority of the time and have done so throughout history. That won't change. We also don't need to go after inactive opponents, drain them by contract, go after much smaller opponents, wait until they're aged out, or other methods to weaken them to beat world class fighters like both the US and Mexico do. Nor do we need a mass of robberies either.

Are you not going to list wins over world class opponents Russians have over Black Americans and Mexicans? You're the one who came out with this baloney. At least support it. Don't come out with fallacies to try and deflect. actually support it. I'll do likewise.

[Sid-Knee]

We have to go back to the old primitive days of boxing to find a real badass ethnic Brit boxer.

Bob Fitzsimmons

before modern boxing evolved. Before there was footage

All time great Mexicans and Blacks can be named off the top of one’s head

to say they’re in the same tier is asinine

Brits are those who are born and raised in the UK. But tell me about all the Mexicans and Americans who are ethnically North American? I'd love the comedy you'd provide.

[SouthpawRight]

Who cares if Golovkin's father is ethnic Russian. He isn't. But i like the contradiction and hypocrisy of claiming Ward whose father was White.

If it's about ethnicity, then pretty much all the Mexicans and Mexican Americans are ethnically Spanish which is in Europe. Barely any of them are full native. They're all practically White. I bet we have a lot more who are ethnically British than there are those who are ethnically Mexicans.

Froch beat Dirrell and Taylor. neither had a White father. Unlike Ward.

So Black and Asian don't count even though they're the product of their environment? Don't tell me, Khan is Pakistani which produces a load of world champions. It had nothing to do with being born and raised in the UK? Naz got his capabilities from the Yemen, not the UK? Did all the Black Americans get their capabilities from Africa? Why then do they not have many champions even though the continent is massive?

Calzaghe has wins over Hopkins, Jones, Lacy, Mitchell and Brewer. All are Black Americans at world level?

Loma and Usyk very much don't identify as Russian. They're Ukrainian. But i would love for you to say that to their face. If it's to do with being part of the Soviet Union, then isn't all of the US part of the UK considering that was in the British Empire too? So many contradictions and so much hypocrisy here, it's laughable.

Kostya wasn't close to finished. He was close to his best. If it's his age, then Froch was the same age when he fought Ward. Again, another contradiction and more hypocrisy. Kostya had just come from blowing away Mitchell who was considered by many to be the best whilst Kostya was away.

Who did Canelo beat that was ethnically British and world class at their best? I'd love to see more of your contradictions and hypocrisy.

Our history is not only superior to Mexico's. It's vastly superior. We have fighters who have more ATG victories alone than all of Mexico's history combined. Educate yourself.

We are in the highest in boxing. It's why we beat Americans and Mexican the vast majority of the time and have done so throughout history. That won't change. We also don't need to go after inactive opponents, drain them by contract, go after much smaller opponents, wait until they're aged out, or other methods to weaken them to beat world class fighters like both the US and Mexico do. Nor do we need a mass of robberies either.

Are you not going to list wins over world class opponents Russians have over Black Americans and Mexicans? You're the one who came out with this baloney. At least support it. Don't come out with fallacies to try and deflect. actually support it. I'll do likewise.

Brits are those who are born and raised in the UK. But tell me about all the Mexicans and Americans who are ethnically North American? I'd love the comedy you'd provide.

The mental gymnastics of a soured limey from the wreck of the British Empire

Black-American all time greats eclipses the isles

the sun set on Britain long ago

so many atg victories that you didnt list any lol

There’s almost no white Brit all time great

Brit Ken Buchanan took a bad L from half Mexican Duran