Comments Thread For: Edgar Berlanga Likely Next for Canelo Alvarez, Says Eddie Hearn

[AKAcronym]

Ok but golovkin was 35 on his first canelo fight and he did pretty well, Floyd was 36 when he took gingers 0 , age factor would def be on Benny's side thats no lie but we cant say the same when it comes to overall experience.

Well they actually wanted to fight the younger guy, which Canelo doesn't seem to be too keen on. He obviously has more experience but it's becoming apparent he's not quite the same as he was a few years ago.

[TintaBoricua]

this is your opinion not mine

maybe u should go watch the fight again since u are so 'nuanced'

I have, actually. Canelo starts strong, Canelo finishes strong. Everything else in between is all GGG. There’s maybe 3 rounds throughout that are swing rounds.

The term “gift” or “robbery” is so overused that it’s lost its meaning.

Canelo got a gift draw, you say?
Then I guess Haney got a gift draw against Loma…?
And Munguia a gift decision over Derevyenchenko…?
And Cotto got a gift decision over Clottey…?


If you actually sit down and score fights frequently, you’d actually realize how easy it is to arrive to certain scorecards the general public would deem “skewed”, “inadmissible”, “a joke”.

The only fight you can legitimately say that one guy won in the trilogy is the last one. The first two can go both ways. If you actually sit down and score fights frequently, you’d actually realize how easy it is to arrive to certain scorecards the general public would deem “skewed”, “inadmissible”, “a joke”. Commentators that watch the fight and even when people watch fights with friends can sometimes subconsciously fall into group think and that can shape their interpretation of what they’re watching. Judges don’t get that advantage. It’s why some people (though not me) advocate that the 10-9 scoring system is archaic. There’s a measure for close rounds (where judges can score it 10-10), but it’s probably frowned upon to do that more than once in a fight, even if you have fights like Marquez-Pacquiao 1 and 2 where SEVERAL rounds are fought well consistently with both fighters.

The only fight you can legitimately say that one guy won in the Canelo-GGG trilogy is the last one. The first two are close.

Klitschko-Ibragimov is easy to score.
Mosley-Mayweather is easy to score.
Pacquiao-Ledwaba is easy to score.

Apparently you got the Canelo-GGG fight scored the first time for GGG and that’s it. It’s a lock. As if there’s no way to get to a draw. I dunno about that.

[Smash]

The only fight you can legitimately say that one guy won in the trilogy is the last one. The first two can go b

You type a lot trying to justify your stance

The vast majority of fans had ggg winning the first canelo fight, its not rocket science, well it is for some people it seems

[TintaBoricua]

You type a lot trying to justify your stance

The vast majority of fans had ggg winning the first canelo fight, its not rocket science, well it is for some people it seems

So you’ve never scored a fight one way, swore by it, and then on a second viewing, realized you maybe were generous?

Also, the majority of fans thought something like Kirkland-Angulo was fight of the year when they were watching it live, and then they realized it reality it was a one-sided drubbing.

The majority of people thought Marquez-Pacquiao 4 when it got made that it was pointless, and yet look what it gave us.

The majority thought GGG won, sure. I can see that. But saying “gift draw” for Canelo…? Meh.

There’s criteria in boxing, but the massive gaps in subjectivity are what cause scorecards to vary wildly in genuinely close fights, and then people wonder why boxing shoots itself in the foot.

Either accept different scorecards come with the territory, or shun boxing altogether.

To continue to watch boxing and then throughout years keep coming back to to cry robbery or gift draw is insanity.

It’s akin to eating food, saying it tastes bad, but then continuing to eat it.

[Smash]

So you’ve never scored a fight one way, swore by it, and then on a second viewing, realized you maybe were generous?



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yes i did actually, it happened with ggg canelo 1, i watched it first time & thought yeah clear win for ggg & then i watched it second time and thought, hhhhmmm canelo actually did even worse than i thought on the first viewing

maybe this is too nuanced for u, i think u need to work on understand the nuance of discussions better

[QballLobo]

Cash Cow Canelo giving the fans what they want again. Respect.

[Santa_]

Keep this crap off PPV.

[TintaBoricua]

yes i did actually, it happened with ggg canelo 1, i watched it first time & thought yeah clear win for ggg & then i watched it second time and thought, hhhhmmm canelo actually did even worse than i thought on the first viewing

maybe this is too nuanced for u, i think u need to work on understand the nuance of discussions better

Clear win for GGG.

Ok then…

You probably should apply for a judge’s license. You could clean the sport up and help avoid gift decisions and robberies.

[Smash]

Clear win for GGG.

Ok then…

You probably should apply for a judge’s license. You could clean the sport up and help avoid gift decisions and robberies.

clean boxing & its inept judges up, next to mission impossible, noone in boxing wants to change the system even tho they all say they do i would say, too many greedy hands getting paid seems to me

[garfios]

Ggg was 35 when he took on Canelo not 36, and you giving floyd sht just cause he didnt fought margarito? Lmao cmon dude that man was never a match for Mayweather and this coming from a mexican. Listen, we can go back n forth all day long but at the end of the day Canelo already a proven multi division champion and with a HOF career ,the man already paid his boxing dues and everything going forward is just a plus,win or lose. Benavidez yet has a LOT to prove still. Having said this, im still positive we'll see Canelo-Benavidez soon enough.

The ginger is a fraud. Wake up.