Canelo’s Resume vs Pacquiao’s Resume

[GREATEST.O.A.T]

Pac had better resume. 3 Mexican ATGs. Cotto, DLH, thurman.

What makes DLH an ATG? He lost all his biggest fights. Him being a box office draw is basically a myth, especially when he’s had 4 PPV’s surpass 1M, while Floyd had 4 that surpassed 2M. Credit to DLH for being a legit 6 division champ, but ain’t no such thing as ATG status when you’ve lost all your biggest fights.

[famicommander]

What makes DLH an ATG? He lost all his biggest fights. Him being a box office draw is basically a myth, especially when he’s had 4 PPV’s surpass 1M, while Floyd had 4 that surpassed 2M. Credit to DLH for being a legit 6 division champ, but ain’t no such thing as ATG status when you’ve lost all your biggest fights.

List of male 3 division lineal world champions:
Bob Fitzsimmons
Henry Armstrong
Barney Ross
Tony Canzoneri
Sugar Ray Leonard
Oscar De La Hoya
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Manny Pacquiao
Terence Crawford

List of male 6 division world titlists:
Oscar De La Hoya
Manny Pacquiao

Oscar vs fighters that won a major world title in their career (top titles of the WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO, or Ring only; no secondary or interim counted):
W vs Jimmi Bredahl RTD 10 (WBO champion before the WBO was recognized by the other 3)
W vs Jorge Paez KO 2
W vs John John Molina UD 12
W vs Rafael Ruelas TKO 2
W vs Genaro Hernandez RTD 6
W vs Jesse James Lejia RTD 2
W vs Julio Cesar Chavez TKO 4
W vs Miguel Angel Gonzalez UD 12
W vs Pernell Whitaker UD 12
W vs Hector Camacho UD 12
W vs Julio Cesar Chavez RTD 8
W vs Ike Quartey SD 12
L vs Felix Trinidad MD 12
L vs Shaney Mosley SD 12
W vs Arturo Gatti TKO 5
W vs Javier Castillejo UD 12
W vs Fernando Vargas TKO 11
W vs Yori Boy Campas TKO 7
L vs Shane Mosley UD 12
W w Felix Sturm UD 12
L vs Bernard Hopkins KO 9
W vs Ricardo Mayorga TKO 6
L vs Floyd Mayweather Jr. SD 12
W vs Steve Forbes UD 12
L vs Manny Pacquiao RTD 8

What makes Oscar an all time great?

That has to be one of the most ignorant takes I've ever read on this site.

[SouthpawRight]

Outworked by what? Elbows? lmao

Marquez is only robbery in the eyes of casuals. Many ringside scores had it close, even Lederman had Manny winning.

Would you agree that Maidana won against Mayweather because he got outworked? Unlike Horn, Maidana actually landed some great shot against Mayweather and much more convicing but still didn't won the fight.

manny faded and was manhandled around the ring by horn

Oftentimes getting beat up alongside the ropes because he cant fight off them

Horn won 7 rounds max, 5 at minimum. He exposed manny inability to fight inside

Nice appeal to authority. Lederman like that means sht

casuals blindly go with the expert

Horn-manny was close unlike Marquez-manny 3. Manny and Maidana each won 4 to 5 rounds in those fights

competitive arguably close but not a draw 6 rounds and far from winning which takes 7 rounds

fights are scored on a round by round basis

losing more rounds is still a lost even as a power puncher landing some great shots

[SouthpawRight]

I would have much rather seen manny rematch horn and avenge that lost

than that 3rd Timmeh fight

talk about pointless rematch

manny already beat Timmeh twice

fight 1 was 8-4 in manny’s favor

[gamesworn]

manny faded and was manhandled around the ring by horn

Oftentimes getting beat up alongside the ropes because he cant fight off them

Horn won 7 rounds max, 5 at minimum. He exposed manny inability to fight inside

Nice appeal to authority. Lederman like that means sht

casuals blindly go with the expert

Horn-manny was close unlike Marquez-manny 3. Manny and Maidana each won 4 to 5 rounds in those fights

competitive arguably close but not a draw 6 rounds and far from winning which takes 7 rounds

fights are scored on a round by round basis

losing more rounds is still a lost even as a power puncher landing some great shots

If you have Marquez winning against Pac in the third fight, i won't argue with you since it was very close, but it is far from robbery. And the fact you're still arguing Horn Won the fight tells more about your ability to score fights. I rest my case.

[Century Tuna]

Canelo, without a doubt! The Mexican has been through real wars in the ring. Pacquiao has never faced the kind of heavy punchers in higher weight classes that Canelo has. Starting from welterweight, Canelo knocked out the feared light-heavyweight champion Sergei Kovalev and fought GGG three times, who is considered the best middleweight. Pacquiao simply hasn't encountered that level of competition.

[Malvado]

I think it be an interesting how Pacquiao would fair against Alvarez at 154. The version that beat Smith, Kirkland, Cotto, Trout and debatably Lara.

He be fighting a division above Welterweight, against a heavy handed counter puncher like Marquez that has some solid defensive skills. Would Pacquiao display a dominant win over him like Mayweather did or would it be too physically difficult to handle for the athletic phenom against the well rounded bigger fighter? Cotto did surprisingly well against Canelo but was overwhelmed by the Pinoy.

[Lance98]

Pac by a mile and he tries to fight everyone in their prime and jumped multiple divisions. Canelo has a protected record and only jumped divisions when it was convenient.

[hugh grant]

What makes DLH an ATG? He lost all his biggest fights. Him being a box office draw is basically a myth, especially when he’s had 4 PPV’s surpass 1M, while Floyd had 4 that surpassed 2M. Credit to DLH for being a legit 6 division champ, but ain’t no such thing as ATG status when you’ve lost all your biggest fights.

Well, at least pac did to dl h what nobody could

[gamesworn]

I think it be an interesting how Pacquiao would fair against Alvarez at 154. The version that beat Smith, Kirkland, Cotto, Trout and debatably Lara.

He be fighting a division above Welterweight, against a heavy handed counter puncher like Marquez that has some solid defensive skills. Would Pacquiao display a dominant win over him like Mayweather did or would it be too physically difficult to handle for the athletic phenom against the well rounded bigger fighter? Cotto did surprisingly well against Canelo but was overwhelmed by the Pinoy.

Prime Pacquaio wins against that version of Canelo. Going to be more like Margarito fight. Remember this is the same Canelo who had very close wins to the fighters you mentioned. Also struggled to someone like Matthew Hatton and Zombie version of Mosley. At 154 and below weight, Canelo stamina wasn't good either, he gassed out way too early in his fights. The 160 weight showed a better version of Canelo since he finally stopped cutting too much weight.