Comments Thread For: Devin Haney Deserves to Have Ryan Garcia Bout Viewed Through His Lens

[The Big Dunn]

They don't want to talk about that part. Haney is not high my list of fighters, but how he is being treated is a disgrace to sport and society. The gaslighting is through the roof. It goes back to when the medical field believed blks can't feel pain, so they performed all types of wickedness on them and expect them not to cry out.

When have you ever seen the sport praises a drug cheat? Not until a blk fighter is the victim. If no one knew what took place, he/she would believe Haney is the Villain.

I remember in the Oscar De la Hoya/Mayweather fight, the commentary team was basically saying oscar should fight dirty.

Haney has his limitations. Allegedly it’s his style that is causing the backlash.

This guy doesn’t duck, signed with TR the took a crappy deal, including a road rematch, just to get a title fight. Then defended against the best LW in the world, then gave Ryan a shot after he got ktfo by Tank.

Makes no sense why anyone is defending Ryan cheating.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Haney's the luckiest mofo in the sport. He cherrypicked Garcia because he was widely seen as mentally spiraling. Folks were taking bets how fat Ryan will be, and whether he will show up at all. It was supposed to be an easy money grab against a vulnerable fighter.

Instead, dude barely survives the fight while getting pummeled around the ring, He somehow only loses by MD because paid off Max DeLuca scores the fight a draw, giving 9 (!!!) rounds to Haney even though he was outlanded in majority of the rounds, including in overall punch count, by a heavier puncher. After this, Garcia pops for a small dose of a contaminant and Haney gets a win.

All this after getting a robbery against Lomachenko.

Haney's blessed. He should play the lottery.

Accurate post.

If the situation were reversed and Haney had beat the **** out of Garcia, then a millionth of a gram of frickin Ostarine showed up in his test, I'd back Haney. Many supplements on the market contain Ostarine but don't show it in the label. And Ostarine is known as a joke, it isn't a steroid, it doesn't build huge strength and muscles. Look around online, it is not effective and has bad side effects. It is obvious Garcia ingested some from tainted supps. Garcia didn't look any different, he didn't fight any different.

Remember the steroid positive sample? That was the big news. But whoever is responsible for the results apparently got worried that there would be real trouble if they tried and made that test stick. So it magically went away. Now Haney and his small fan base have to blame him getting beat down to a millionth of a gram of Ostarine, which we all know didn't do ****.

Haney just sucks guys. It's time to admit it. He has no power, talks like he is a killer, he hugs....the dude comes into fights 25 pounds heavier than his opponents using IVs. Prograis said it, the dude got what was was coming to him after years of being huge compared to his opponents. He likely outweighed Garcia on fight night. He just got caught with the same left hook that Garcia uses to stop all guys. The ref saved Haney from a KO. Garci looked no different in the ring....he knew Haney's power and knew he could walk through him.


Haney whines and cries like a woman. No one likes the dude. And none of this is because he is a black guy, as is insinuated alot. My favorite fighters are mainly black dudes. It is because Haney is a joke and always has been. And this whole thing with what may well be drug test fraud stinks like a pile of dog****. The climate if all media and society right now is political and idiotic. Im not left or right, but its easy to see where the culture us now. Toxic.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Haney has his limitations. Allegedly it’s his style that is causing the backlash.

This guy doesn’t duck, signed with TR the took a crappy deal, including a road rematch, just to get a title fight. Then defended against the best LW in the world, then gave Ryan a shot after he got ktfo by Tank.

Makes no sense why anyone is defending Ryan cheating.

Haney and his dad talk with false bravado and sickening conceit constantly. If Haney went in and did what Bud does, or Tank....if he went in and WAS a bad MFer, he would be a fan favorite.

But he has a weak chin and no power. So he fights defensively and is awful to watch. He has been rocked several times. Loma beat him and Haney gets a bizarre gift, certainly Bob paying for it because Haney is young and Loma is on the door of retirement. That situation actually hurt Haney, because it was obvious and now he is seen as a fake. He should have given Loma an immediate rematch.

You can't fight defensively with no power and win UD's, get obviously paid off gift wins to keep the belt that you got by email, and then show zero humility and act like you are this monster fighter and run your mouths. If Haney and his dad showed just a tiny bit of humility and reality in their rhetoric, Haney would get some sympathy.

But they don't. No one likes Devin because of it. Nothing to do with his color, nothing. He is just a fake.

[The Big Dunn]

Haney and his dad talk with false bravado and sickening conceit constantly. If Haney went in and did what Bud does, or Tank....if he went in and WAS a bad MFer, he would be a fan favorite.

But he has a weak chin and no power. So he fights defensively and is awful to watch. He has been rocked several times. Loma beat him and Haney gets a bizarre gift, certainly Bob paying for it because Haney is young and Loma is on the door of retirement. That situation actually hurt Haney, because it was obvious and now he is seen as a fake. He should have given Loma an immediate rematch.

You can't fight defensively with no power and win UD's, get obviously paid off gift wins to keep the belt that you got by email, and then show zero humility and act like you are this monster fighter and run your mouths. If Haney and his dad showed just a tiny bit of humility and reality in their rhetoric, Haney would get some sympathy.

But they don't. No one likes Devin because of it. Nothing to do with his color, nothing. He is just a fake.

Teo and his dad do same. There isn’t nearly as much vitriol as with Haney. Style seems to have something to do with it but that just doesn’t make sense that it causes all this.

Loma lost a close fight. You guys need to stop this BS where you tacitly defend Ryan using PEDs because you’re mad the judges scored the Haney/ Loma fight for Haney. That is weak.

Why would he give an immediate rematch when he barely made 135 for that fight? The rematch would have been at 140. I don’t see the point in that. It seems people wanted Haney to starve himself to give Loma a better chance to win. You wouldn’t do that if you were Haney either.

Dude, your last paragraph is f-cking ignorant. Did you think about that before posting?

Why does he have to show humility in order for you and others to give him sympathy for the other guy using PEDs? Ryan cheating has nothing to do with Haney’s behavior or attitude.

I don’t care if you like Haney or not. That isn’t the issue. The issue is posters defending Ryan cheating. Unless you think If Haney was kind and nice Ryan wouldn’t have used PEDs.

Ryan was coming off getting ktfo, was desperate to win, and cheated using PEDs to do so. Yeah, Haney deserves better from people like you, like him or not.

As to race- you are not a frequent poster so you probably didn’t see all the race based posts and threads after the fight, including a thread about Haney got the NC because he is black and has black privilege after Ryan tested positive .

If these types of posts and threads are not about race, what are they about?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

If Haney is not that good, then it makes Garcia worse for needing peds to beat a fighter who is not that good.

Garcia popping doesn’t change the fact that Haney had some serious flaws in his game, many of which were obvious pre-Garcia. Garcia definitely exposed them to the less educated though.

[tokon]

“There’s not enough punishment for PEDs,” Malignaggi said. “We have first-ballot Hall of Famers [who used]. There’s rewards [for use] and the perception that this doesn’t affect you.”

This is the real issue. The punishments don't fit the crime.

[ELPacman]

What we saw was Haney lose to a fighter who failed to make the weight and who was on PEDS. Can’t really say he was exposed, due to those circumstances.

I go back and forth with this argument. On one side Garcia had 2 pretty good advantages in the fight. On the other side, even without them, would Haney be able to avoid the punches still or even take them? Ryan hits pretty good regardless of PEDs this time around and Haney was able to be hit. Perhaps his chin was just on display here and we got the answer as to how well he can take a punch. I'm not sure the weight advantage or PED really made the difference or Ryan is just not a good fight for Haney regardless.

[TonyRespectful]

Maybe the criticism is his karma

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Teo and his dad do same. There isn’t nearly as much vitriol as with Haney. Style seems to have something to do with it but that just doesn’t make sense that it causes all this.

Loma lost a close fight. You guys need to stop this BS where you tacitly defend Ryan using PEDs because you’re mad the judges scored the Haney/ Loma fight for Haney. That is weak.

Why would he give an immediate rematch when he barely made 135 for that fight? The rematch would have been at 140. I don’t see the point in that. It seems people wanted Haney to starve himself to give Loma a better chance to win. You wouldn’t do that if you were Haney either.

Dude, your last paragraph is f-cking ignorant. Did you think about that before posting?

Why does he have to show humility in order for you and others to give him sympathy for the other guy using PEDs? Ryan cheating has nothing to do with Haney’s behavior or attitude.

I don’t care if you like Haney or not. That isn’t the issue. The issue is posters defending Ryan cheating. Unless you think If Haney was kind and nice Ryan wouldn’t have used PEDs.

Ryan was coming off getting ktfo, was desperate to win, and cheated using PEDs to do so. Yeah, Haney deserves better from people like you, like him or not.

As to race- you are not a frequent poster so you probably didn’t see all the race based posts and threads after the fight, including a thread about Haney got the NC because he is black and has black privilege after Ryan tested positive .

If these types of posts and threads are not about race, what are they about?

Yeah I don't post a ton. I don't see much racial stuff here. Anyone judging a person based on skin color is a moron. And that means both ways. Racism from any human being, meaning white against black, black against white, Hispanic against black or white, etc....total idiocy and the whole idea is a propaganda driven anyway.

I'm telling you, look Ostarine up for yourself. It isn't a substance that is giving anyone huge power or making a difference in a fight. It is known for bad side effects. The sport bans alot of stuff that basically does nothing. So to say that a millionth of a gram of Ostarine made Garcia an unstoppable monster and that Haney is some big victim who was "damaged"....it is just silliness.

Tank had inside info from Garcia's camp and literally aimed for the area where he knew Garcia was hurt, eventually stopping him with the information. He also drained Garcia to a skeleton. Garcia got stopped and said, let's run it back.

There are also sources online saying that Haney knew about the millionth of gram of Ostarine test pre fight and still went ahead with it. Why? Because he knows it doesn't do crap. Then he gets caught and he is mentally and physically changed, he needs therapy and is the victim of crime. Gimme a break. Jesus.

Haney is a weight bully with no power. He talks a load of garbage than plays defense constantly. No one likes the guy as a fighter.

The whole thing stinks. Period.

[The Big Dunn]

Yeah I don't post a ton. I don't see much racial stuff here. Anyone judging a person based on skin color is a moron. And that means both ways. Racism from any human being, meaning white against black, black against white, Hispanic against black or white, etc....total idiocy and the whole idea is a propaganda driven anyway.

I'm telling you, look Ostarine up for yourself. It isn't a substance that is giving anyone huge power or making a difference in a fight. It is known for bad side effects. The sport bans alot of stuff that basically does nothing. So to say that a millionth of a gram of Ostarine made Garcia an unstoppable monster and that Haney is some big victim who was "damaged"....it is just silliness.

Tank had inside info from Garcia's camp and literally aimed for the area where he knew Garcia was hurt, eventually stopping him with the information. He also drained Garcia to a skeleton. Garcia got stopped and said, let's run it back.

There are also sources online saying that Haney knew about the millionth of gram of Ostarine test pre fight and still went ahead with it. Why? Because he knows it doesn't do crap. Then he gets caught and he is mentally and physically changed, he needs therapy and is the victim of crime. Gimme a break. Jesus.

Haney is a weight bully with no power. He talks a load of garbage than plays defense constantly. No one likes the guy as a fighter.

The whole thing stinks. Period.

I realize you don’t so, again, there was no way you saw all the garbage.

I am not informed enough about that drug. I can’t say you’re wrong. That said, Ryan has never looked that good at all as a pro. That was a completely different boxer I had ever seen. Said so in the rbr thread that night.

So I am left with his positives being the reason for that. Unless, of course, the 3-4 lbs he came in over made him prime Trinidad.

Yeah, Tank used his earning power. That is why I made sure not to mention that fight. Ryan clearly was less than himself.

That is the stuff I’m talking about. Haney knew. Come on. It seems people will run with anything to defend Ryan. He cheated. Plain and simple.

No such thing as a weight bully. Haney made weight so be it. He left 135 when he couldn’t anymore.

Not being popular isn’t justification for Ryan to come in heavy and test positive.