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Usyk forced to vacate IBF heavyweight title so they can give it to the winner of Joshua v Dubois
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Originally posted by famicommander View Post
The only fool here is the IBF. They are 100% the only entity to blame in this situation. Their rankings were trash to allow Hrgovic into a mandatory position in the first place, and it's an even bigger joke that their vacant title fight is between two guys the undisputed champion already whooped a total of 3 times in recent memory.
the fool here is YOU. Usyk and Fury were well aware of the rules. NO CONTRACTED REMATCHES. Period. Its not confusing. But they knew the rule existed, and decided to make the rematch anyways, for the $$$. And they are free to make that choice. Otherwise, everyone has to wait around 6-8 months for them to fight (assuming its not postponed again), and then of course if fury wins, or its close or controversial, then everyone gets to wait around another 6-8 months for the THIRD fight. Well too bad, the world doesnt stop just so Fury and Usyk can pad their bank accounts.
The rules are clear. But you seem exceptionally hurt by this and might want to talk to someone.Last edited by OnePunch; 06-25-2024, 10:33 PM.Laligalaliga likes this.
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Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
the fool here is YOU. Usyk and Fury were well aware of the rules. NO CONTRACTED REMATCHES. Period. Its not confusing. But they knew the rule existed, and decided to make the rematch anyways, for the $$$. And they are free to make that choice. Otherwise, everyone has to wait around 6-8 months for them to fight (assuming its not postponed again), and then of course if fury wins, or its close or controversial, then everyone gets to wait around another 6-8 months for the THIRD fight. Well too bad, the world doesnt stop just so Fury and Usyk can pad their bank accounts.
The rules are clear. But you seem exceptionally hurt by this and might want to talk to someone.
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People are upset because AJ is about to be 3X Heavy Weight Works Champ, it will kill their agenda especially Fury fan boys. They are devastated of this news and scratching their heads. Its a good move by IBF and that why they are being rated very high.
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No issue here, Usyk is still undisputed in the eyes of everyone with or without the IBF, however, the IBF does have its rules and it’s no surprise that this happened. It’s virtually impossible to keep all 4 belts in this day and era between how often boxers fight and who each alphabet organization decides is their mandatory.
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Originally posted by famicommander View Post
The rules are clear, but they're meaningless and they're being used to destroy the credibility of the belt. DuBois and Joshua had three chances between them to beat Usyk and neither of them could do it. There is no coherent argument for the winner of a fight between them to get one of Usyk's belts. Period. The IBF has no right to exist in any fashion if they choose to place their belt's credibility below that of the IBO, which is already a joke.
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If Oleksandr Uysk has not fought his mandatory opponents then he should not hold the IBF World title 'But? If it was not for Tyson Fury pulling out of their scheduled undisputed fight twice. Oleksandr Uysk may have been able to fight his mandatory opponents'.
The IBF Boxing organisation seems very serious and strict with their mandatory requirements for their Champions. I don't think this is bad for the sport as a whole, but it can be unfortunate for individual boxers like Oleksandr Uysk who? Has found himself in a situation which in my opinion, he did not entirely cause upon himself.
Note: People may be disappointed in this decision, but Champions have requirements and tenants that they must adhere to. Unfortunately Oleksandr Uysk's undisputed contest against Tyson Fury, with all of the postponements has in my opinion disputed Oleksandr Uysk's title reign.
A similar situation to this has happened before in the past. When David Haye beat Jean Marc Mormeck 'Jean Marc Mormeck in the fight prior to fighting Haye, avenged his loss to O'Neil Bell. Bell was stripped of his IBF Title which he won, when he beat Jean Marc Mormeck in their first fight'.
This is why I have always personally regarded David Haye as a Undisputed Cruiserweight World Champion 'Technically Haye won ever single Championship belt in the division and beat all the major Champions both Jean Marc Mormech and Enzo Macarinelli. Haye was only not awarded the IBF World Title due to a technicality' etc.
Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 06-26-2024, 08:08 AM.
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Originally posted by Skip Bayless View PostGood. Usyk has proven himself to be number 1 anyway and will go down in history as undisputed. A chump like fury doesn’t deserve 2 cracks at undisputed, we all know he wouldn’t have honoured the rematch if he had won.
Huge respect to IBF. They seem to be the only body that actually enforces mandatories, you lot usually cry about how the others don’t so don’t cry when they do.
This is heavyweight. Belts come and go, often without a fight. Usyk is linial champion. These strippings point out why that's the only one that matters.
Were you under the impression that the IBF refragmented the cheesey belts for the good of the sport?Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 06-26-2024, 09:13 AM.
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Don't see the issue. The fight got postponed a few times and Usyk won the whole thing, dropping a belt won't take away that he was undisputed at HW. Usyk already beat both AJ and DDD so after Fury again there is no reason to try to unify once more.
I rather have the belts available for other fighters since it opens up the division and will have more guys fighting each other instead the funnel effect a unified champ causes.Last edited by TOBYLEE1; 06-27-2024, 07:43 AM.
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