Why so much hate for Haney? He's obviously a very talented, world class fighter who pushed himself against top competition at a young age. Show some respect!

[The D3vil]

You do know CB is just a joke and the guy behind it just does what he is told to do.
Loma won that fight.

CB has been used for 40 years & is what has been used for 40 years to give a general idea of how the fight went.

It's not perfect, nobody has ever said it was, but it is the standard.

[OnePunch]

No I am not. I am going by what I saw on the site.

If you notice, I have no issue if you don’t like Haney. That is not justification for defending a PED cheat who beats him.

Reminder, as you are aware, I don’t like GGG. Did I defend Canelo cheating? Absolutely not. So come on Terry. At some point you can’t turn a blind eye to this stuff.

Huh? Well maybe you haven’t looked. I have seen people say Haney deserved it because he is a racist and because of his rehydration. Others have said its because he cheated Loma, as if he scored the fight for himself.

Defend a loudmouth? That is so weak. Who cares if he talks a lot. That doesn’t mean he deserves to be cheated against.

Unsympathetic? The dude that doesn’t duck. Takes bad deals and signs with a rival promoter to get his title shot. Gives Ryan a shot. Fights outside the US.

That guy deserves to lose against a guy the used PEDs, not to mention coming in heavy, because he lacks power and has to fight defensively to win?

That makes absolutely no sense to any rational adult.

you're misunderstanding what I'm saying.

You are taking what you claim you saw a FEW people posting, and then classifying EVERY person who detests Haney as if they were also saying the same thing. Hint: We're not. Even if I grant your premise that there are a few people who hate Haney because of his race, that doesnt mean that EVERY person who detests him does so because of race. But that's how you always seem to respond. The minute there is a criticism of a black fighter for any reason, here you come with your usual "well we KNOW what thats about" inferences. Its tired, and boring, and all too predictable. And lacks any cognitive thought.

As for my "loudmouth" adjective, I wasnt referring to Haney. I was referring more to some loudmouth in a bar and someone gives him a smack. Normal people would never agree with assaulting someone that you disagree with, but if its an unsympathetic victim, its easy for people to become indifferent. Yes, Haney was wronged by Garcia popping dirty. But he is an unsympathetic victim, which makes alot of people not give a ****. Kind of like if Tremps wife cheated on him. You dont support cheating, but you certainly aren't going to feel sorry for a clown like Tremp, no matter what.

So Its not that they support PEDs, its just that they do not want to defend Haney. There is a difference.......

And I can believe the former presidents name must be misspelled to post it LOL

[MulaKO]

you're misunderstanding what I'm saying.

You are taking what you claim you saw a FEW people posting, and then classifying EVERY person who detests Haney as if they were also saying the same thing. Hint: We're not. Even if I grant your premise that there are a few people who hate Haney because of his race, that doesnt mean that EVERY person who detests him does so because of race. But that's how you always seem to respond. The minute there is a criticism of a black fighter for any reason, here you come with your usual "well we KNOW what thats about" inferences. Its tired, and boring, and all too predictable. And lacks any cognitive thought.

As for my "loudmouth" adjective, I wasnt referring to Haney. I was referring more to some loudmouth in a bar and someone gives him a smack. Normal people would never agree with assaulting someone that you disagree with, but if its an unsympathetic victim, its easy for people to become indifferent. Yes, Haney was wronged by Garcia popping dirty. But he is an unsympathetic victim, which makes alot of people not give a ****. Kind of like if Tremps wife cheated on him. You dont support cheating, but you certainly aren't going to feel sorry for a clown like Tremp, no matter what.

So Its not that they support PEDs, its just that they do not want to defend Haney. There is a difference.......

And I can believe the former presidents name must be misspelled to post it LOL

I was just dicusted with how many alts were made to come out and post some of the ludicrous stuff when every second week someone pisses hot but not a word from the same people
And I got a few racist comments which I couldn’t give two fughs about ( one of my closest friends is blacker than black lol ) I know where I stand in chit like that
Then the usual how can you support a cheat
But what really got my gears going is when I heard he wanted to sue
Cost $15000 to prove I was innocent when I got attacked so no fughin way do I agree with him doing that and whoever does to me is dirty little fughin RAT

Another , thing can someone , you know who you are , prove to me that Ostarine gains you skills

Haney got beat by skills that were just better than his

I was told that Ostarine is only good to cut weight , nothing more nothing less

[Slicc]

Haney isn't good at playing a heel, because he generally looks awkward and uncomfortable talking trash; You can tell that's not who he really is. His dad sells his fights better than he does, but because he's not the one fighting, those antics just make his son seem more unlikable, and not in a way that benefits him. For an example of a successful heel: Mayweather had the confidence and mic skills to play the villain and generate star power, while having elite boxing skills, which maintained it and kept people paying to see him lose. Haney can't box as well, and his attempts at reproducing his act come across as forced and inauthentic, so everyone just clowns him. It's a real shame, because he is skilled and tries to fight the best.

[-Kev-]

No not all of us... Some people feel being a weight bully is a form of cheating. Coming into a fight 10 plus pounds over to me is a very obvious advantage that should not be given to any fighter. Does that mean I target fighters who I don't like because I feel this way?

I actually was a fan of Haney. I really started having second thoughts after the prograis fight.

I just wonder why people have to be lumped into general categories. Let's look at the issue itself. One issue is did Haney break a law coming in as he did in the prograis fight? No he did not. I acknowledge that with Big d and I'll acknowledge it with you.

That doesn't make it right and it doesn't make it not cheating in my opinion. It makes Hainy a hypocrite in many respects. You have a guy who basically thought you get an easy fight so he took the fight with Ryan knowing Ryan was cheating. Then we'll tell us "oh wait He's cheating even more!"

You have a guy who himself takes advantage that way even if not breaking a law, then claims to be a victim. I'm not buying it and I don't have any previous hate for him as a fighter.

Dude is reaping what he sowed. In my book at least.

Devin Haney knows it too. Before Ryan Garcia, he would tell every opponent at the face off “You’re too small.” He and Conte know what they are doing.

How can you be so sure that your opponent is too small? How does Haney know he’s going to be the bigger man in the ring? What does he and Conte have up their sleeves to make sure, to 100% guarantee, that Haney will be the bigger man? Rehydration has always been part of boxing. Every boxer does it, some barely go up a few pounds, others may gain 10-15lbs.

But how does Haney know he will for sure outweigh his opponent on fight night? He’s clearly notifying opponents at face off “You’re too small.” With lots of confidence.

It’s fcking weird.

Not “i’m better than you.” Or “I’m going to KO you.”, “You are a weak puncher.”, “You can’t hurt me.”

Nope, none of that. His go to line has been “You’re too small.” To multiple fighters.

That’s because he’s a massive weight bully and he knows it, and he ensures it along with Conte.

And you know what was Conte’s specialty in baseball? From his own mouth after he was raided. He knew the people administering the tests, he knew what they tested for, he knew which PED’s weren’t banned yet, he knew how to beat the tests even for the drugs they did test for. There was no Conte client that tested positive for PED’s, ever. Barry Bonds? Never failed a test. Shane Mosley? Never failed a test. Gary Sheffield, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi. From 1988 to 2002.

Scientists had to create a test for a “mysterious substance” found in a syringe used by Marion Jones, which was found by her coach, not drug tests. And this substance wasn’t identified as a PED yet.

And btw to this day, Barry Bonds and Jason Giambi, two Conte clients, never failed a drug test. Jason Giambi admitted to using PED’s from Balco in court, and knowing what they were. Barry Bonds admitted to using steroids as well but supposedly thinking it was flaxseed oil and arthritis cream.

There could be more than just weight bullying going on in the Haney camp. And poor* Ryan Garcia just doesn’t have the good stuff, the undetectable stuff. He doesn’t have the master of PED’s by his side. Imo, both fighters were cheating, and Ryan Garcia just started with this fight, and Devin Haney has been cheating for a few fights now (but he’s still just not that good).

[MulaKO]

Devin Haney knows it too. Before Ryan Garcia, he would tell every opponent at the face off “You’re too small.” He and Conte know what they are doing.

How can you be so sure that your opponent is too small? How does Haney know he’s going to be the bigger man in the ring? What does he and Conte have up their sleeves to make sure, to 100% guarantee, that Haney will be the bigger man? Rehydration has always been part of boxing. Every boxer does it, some barely go up a few pounds, others may gain 10-15lbs.

But how does Haney know he will for sure outweigh his opponent on fight night? He’s clearly notifying opponents at face off “You’re too small.” With lots of confidence.

It’s fcking weird.

Not “i’m better than you.” Or “I’m going to KO you.”, “You are a weak puncher.”, “You can’t hurt me.”

Nope, none of that. His go to line has been “You’re too small.” To multiple fighters.

That’s because he’s a massive weight bully and he knows it, and he ensures it along with Conte.

And you know what was Conte’s specialty in baseball? From his own mouth after he was raided. He knew the people administering the tests, he knew what they tested for, he knew which PED’s weren’t banned yet, he knew how to beat the tests even for the drugs they did test for. There was no Conte client that tested positive for PED’s, ever. Barry Bonds? Never failed a test. Shane Mosley? Never failed a test. Gary Sheffield, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi. From 1988 to 2002.

Scientists had to create a test for a “mysterious substance” found in a syringe used by Marion Jones, which was found by her coach, not drug tests. And this substance wasn’t identified as a PED yet.

And btw to this day, Barry Bonds and Jason Giambi, two Conte clients, never failed a drug test. Jason Giambi admitted to using PED’s from Balco in court, and knowing what they were. Barry Bonds admitted to using steroids as well but supposedly thinking it was flaxseed oil and arthritis cream.

There could be more than just weight bullying going on in the Haney camp. And poot Ryan Garcia just doesn’t have the good stuff, the undetectable stuff. He doesn’t have the master of PED’s by his side. Imo, both fighters were cheating, and Ryan Garcia just started with this fight, and Devin Haney has been cheating for a few fights now (but he’s still just not that good).

Good post
One of the best ever books I read was Jose Canseco ‘s first book
He laid it all out

[Lance98]

Devin as getting hate before he was even a champ when he was climbing up with a few fights, and during that time, he just said that he has dreams to be great like floyd and posted a pic of him looking like floyd in that boxing stance, like what's wrong about having dreams and aspirations of your fave boxer? He never said anything about wanting to be floyd when floyd was "money mayweather" outside the ring, he just wants to be as good as floyd in the ring as a boxer. This was really early, way before that "i never lose to a white guy" comment. People apparently has a vested interest in seeing him fail just for having dreams for a while.

[The Big Dunn]

you're misunderstanding what I'm saying.

You are taking what you claim you saw a FEW people posting, and then classifying EVERY person who detests Haney as if they were also saying the same thing. Hint: We're not. Even if I grant your premise that there are a few people who hate Haney because of his race, that doesnt mean that EVERY person who detests him does so because of race. But that's how you always seem to respond. The minute there is a criticism of a black fighter for any reason, here you come with your usual "well we KNOW what thats about" inferences. Its tired, and boring, and all too predictable. And lacks any cognitive thought.

As for my "loudmouth" adjective, I wasnt referring to Haney. I was referring more to some loudmouth in a bar and someone gives him a smack. Normal people would never agree with assaulting someone that you disagree with, but if its an unsympathetic victim, its easy for people to become indifferent. Yes, Haney was wronged by Garcia popping dirty. But he is an unsympathetic victim, which makes alot of people not give a ****. Kind of like if Tremps wife cheated on him. You dont support cheating, but you certainly aren't going to feel sorry for a clown like Tremp, no matter what.

So Its not that they support PEDs, its just that they do not want to defend Haney. There is a difference.......

And I can believe the former presidents name must be misspelled to post it LOL

I am not saying it is everybody. At no point did I say everyone did. You took it that way for no good reason. If you weren’t one of the people that created or posted in one of those threads, why are you taking offense to the post?

What lacks cognitive thought is your response to my post. You immediately defended people for no reason other than you assumed I meant everyone when I didn’t say everyone.

That still doesn’t make much sense to me. How he tries to market himself shouldn’t overshadow the fact he does what fans want boxers at the top level to do.

In that case he cheated first, that is understandable why you wouldn’t have sympathy. Haney hasn’t cheated. He gave Ryan a fight when others wouldn’t.

You don’t have to defend Haney, just don’t defend Ryan and cheating, no matter how you feel about Devin.

This is just basic right and wrong. Haney did nothing wrong. Ryan did multiple things wrong. One deserves scorn. The other does not.

[billeau2]

Devin Haney knows it too. Before Ryan Garcia, he would tell every opponent at the face off “You’re too small.” He and Conte know what they are doing.

How can you be so sure that your opponent is too small? How does Haney know he’s going to be the bigger man in the ring? What does he and Conte have up their sleeves to make sure, to 100% guarantee, that Haney will be the bigger man? Rehydration has always been part of boxing. Every boxer does it, some barely go up a few pounds, others may gain 10-15lbs.

But how does Haney know he will for sure outweigh his opponent on fight night? He’s clearly notifying opponents at face off “You’re too small.” With lots of confidence.

It’s fcking weird.

Not “i’m better than you.” Or “I’m going to KO you.”, “You are a weak puncher.”, “You can’t hurt me.”

Nope, none of that. His go to line has been “You’re too small.” To multiple fighters.

That’s because he’s a massive weight bully and he knows it, and he ensures it along with Conte.

And you know what was Conte’s specialty in baseball? From his own mouth after he was raided. He knew the people administering the tests, he knew what they tested for, he knew which PED’s weren’t banned yet, he knew how to beat the tests even for the drugs they did test for. There was no Conte client that tested positive for PED’s, ever. Barry Bonds? Never failed a test. Shane Mosley? Never failed a test. Gary Sheffield, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi. From 1988 to 2002.

Scientists had to create a test for a “mysterious substance” found in a syringe used by Marion Jones, which was found by her coach, not drug tests. And this substance wasn’t identified as a PED yet.

And btw to this day, Barry Bonds and Jason Giambi, two Conte clients, never failed a drug test. Jason Giambi admitted to using PED’s from Balco in court, and knowing what they were. Barry Bonds admitted to using steroids as well but supposedly thinking it was flaxseed oil and arthritis cream.

There could be more than just weight bullying going on in the Haney camp. And poor* Ryan Garcia just doesn’t have the good stuff, the undetectable stuff. He doesn’t have the master of PED’s by his side. Imo, both fighters were cheating, and Ryan Garcia just started with this fight, and Devin Haney has been cheating for a few fights now (but he’s still just not that good).

Great Break down. Your understanding may give other's insight why some of us do not hold the "law" as a final authority. A lot of what Conte does is perfectly legal. Sometimes? looking at your micronutrient analysis (very few machines can do so at the level that Conte's can) and giving you the right supplements will boost you tremendously. There are even people who think Conte had something to do with Ryan's test... credible people, I won't go down that rabbit hole lol. How much of what Conte does is Steroid based? I don't pretend to know, but I am not naive lol.

I also know something of Conte from before he blew up... He is not the evil individual people think he is, but in an enterprise where being a fraction of a second off can be the difference between success and failure... Well we know the rest.
People should think one day... what fraction of time on Barry Bond's swing transformed him? lol. And when you see a giant punch land, where was the other guy's arms? was he trying to get there first? Grist for the thought mill... Conte has his place and always will... I look at him as a lot less harmful than Arum and King who are both too evil to die. Satan looks at them and runs.

[PRchamp]

Haney isn't good at playing a heel, because he generally looks awkward and uncomfortable talking trash; You can tell that's not who he really is. His dad sells his fights better than he does, but because he's not the one fighting, those antics just make his son seem more unlikable, and not in a way that benefits him. For an example of a successful heel: Mayweather had the confidence and mic skills to play the villain and generate star power, while having elite boxing skills, which maintained it and kept people paying to see him lose. Haney can't box as well, and his attempts at reproducing his act come across as forced and inauthentic, so everyone just clowns him. It's a real shame, because he is skilled and tries to fight the best.

His best gimmick is pushing people at the weigh ins