Which Current Heavyweight would you give the best chance against Usyk

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  • pollywog
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    Joshua got schooled twice by Usyk. They'd have to fight an extra 3 times with Joshua winning them all to prove he is better.

    That's doing something 3 times hes failed to do once in 2 tries.

    GTFOH with the shït!!!

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      #12
      Joseph Parker has the team and the skillset to test Usyk in ways Joshua, Dubois and Fury couldn't.

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        #13
        Tyson Fury. he gave Usyk the best fight ever.

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          #14
          I’ll still go with Tyson Fury.

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          • Boxing56
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            I think only Fury.

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            • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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              #16
              I’d say Fury, but Usyk definitely starts favourite again.

              If Usyk fights on towards 40, maybe an up and coming guy like Jalolov can catch him at the right time.

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              • hugh grant
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                #17
                Fury, but if Fury loses, then Zhang and Parker deserve a shot

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                  If the third Anthony Joshua vs Oleksandr Uysk fight is ever made, lets all be honest 'Nobody here is certain that Uysk is going to win that fight. People are already in anticipation making excuses for Oleksandr Uysk and Tyson Fury, if they was to ever lose to Anthony Joshua'.

                  The reality is, all of these fighters are from the same generation 'The battle between the top 4 Heavyweights to see who will be the last man standing, is a drawn out battle. And I have always stated that? In that sort of dynamic, the competition was potentially always going to move back towards Anthony Joshua and Oleksandr Uysk'.

                  I stated this way over 1 year ago 'You know when Tyson Fury was apparently the lineal Heavyweight Champion, and WBC Champion of the World'.

                  You know when week in or week out, in boxing circles narratives such as Tyson Fury being hypothetically head to head 'The most formidable fighter in the history in the sport'.

                  During all of those times, I envisioned a potentially different competition to most other people in the boxing community 'And since that point on a fight by fight basis, tectonic shifts have been occurring in the sport of boxing'.

                  The perception that certain people had of the Heavyweight Division 18 months ago 'Has completely been dismantled. And what people are observing in the boxing community currently right now, are certain folk trying to hold onto what they believed was reality'.

                  From Joseph Parker beating Deontay Wilder easy, in a fight that Parker has even admitted 'It was not his best performance ever, it seem like a training sessions. Parker just fought a basic disciplined fight, one which I backed him to win'.

                  From Francis Ngannou appearing in the Heavyweight Division, decking and beating Tyson Fury in his professional boxing debut.

                  From Anthony Joshua beating down Otto Wallin, winning every single round and forcing stoppage. Anthony Joshua then in his next fight, totally decimated, obliterated and destroyed Francis Ngannou 'Anthony Joshua has just obliterated Francis Ngannou 'A fighter who was up until that point in his combat career appearing, to be invulnerable to physical attacks'.

                  Such was the extreme of Joshua's victory it has sent shockwaves around the world 'Those shockwaves have altered the perception that fighters have of Ngannou​. Whether Ngannou decides to continue in boxing or mixed martial arts, fighters are going to be confronting him differently now'.

                  And in most recent times Tyson Fury has lost his WBC Heavyweight title to Oleksandr Uysk 'And was severely beaten in the 9th round, potentially damaged and hurt more than he has ever been before'.

                  The competition to see who will be the last man standing of this Heavyweight era 'Have moved back towards Oleksandr Usyk and Anthony Joshua'.

                  Tyson Fury from observation is hanging on 'The Heavyweight Championship of the World, is like Thor's Hammer. And once upon a time, Tyson Fury somehow picked up that Hammer and aloft the power'. But over a duration of time, it became clear that Fury was not worthy of holding onto so much power. Tyson Fury as a Champion never took on all comers, and he very rarely fought consistently at World or Elite level. Tyson Fury had to let go of the hammer, effectively when he fought Oleksandr Uysk that is what happened, but to Tyson Fury's credit, he is aspiring to aloft that Heavyweight Hammer again'.

                  Note: People deny the situation and dynamic in the Heavyweight Division all they want 'But that situation and dynamic is still in effect currently right now as we speak'. Anthony Joshua is the only double jeopardy threat in the Heavyweight Division, he is the one of the most component and proven skill for skill pure boxers and also? Anthony Joshua is one of the most proven power punchers in the division. No other Heavyweight in the division has that combination of attributes and level of threat at such a high level, Anthony Joshua is the only one'.

                  Because of this, people who are honest with themselves are aware 'That if Joshua combines and utilizes all of his power, it is over for all of these top level Heavyweights. Nobody will be surprised if Daniel Dubois does not make it past the 3rd round. And in regard to all the other top level Heavyweights in the division a similar perception can be envisioned, Zhilei Zhang, Joseph Parker, Filip Hrgovic, Agit Kabayel, Andy Ruiz Junior, it will be over for all of these fighters'.

                  To conclude: Certain folk within the boxing community can continue to mock and devalue the threat of Anthony Joshua, If people want to continue behaving this way, they can potentially at their own peril' etc.

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                  • hugh grant
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                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                    If the third Anthony Joshua vs Oleksandr Uysk fight is ever made, lets all be honest 'Nobody here is certain that Uysk is going to win that fight. People are already in anticipation making excuses for Oleksandr Uysk and Tyson Fury, if they was to ever lose to Anthony Joshua'.

                    The reality is, all of these fighters are from the same generation 'The battle between the top 4 Heavyweights to see who will be the last man standing, is a drawn out battle. And I have always stated that? In that sort of dynamic, the competition was potentially always going to move back towards Anthony Joshua and Oleksandr Uysk'.

                    I stated this way over 1 year ago 'You know when Tyson Fury was apparently the lineal Heavyweight Champion, and WBC Champion of the World'.

                    You know when week in or week out, in boxing circles narratives such as Tyson Fury being hypothetically head to head 'The most formidable fighter in the history in the sport'.

                    During all of those times, I envisioned a potentially different competition to most other people in the boxing community 'And since that point on a fight by fight basis, tectonic shifts have been occurring in the sport of boxing'.

                    The perception that certain people had of the Heavyweight Division 18 months ago 'Has completely been dismantled. And what people are observing in the boxing community currently right now, are certain folk trying to hold onto what they believed was reality'.

                    From Joseph Parker beating Deontay Wilder easy, in a fight that Parker has even admitted 'It was not his best performance ever, it seem like a training sessions. Parker just fought a basic disciplined fight, one which I backed him to win'.

                    From Francis Ngannou appearing in the Heavyweight Division, decking and beating Tyson Fury in his professional boxing debut.

                    From Anthony Joshua beating down Otto Wallin, winning every single round and forcing stoppage. Anthony Joshua then in his next fight, totally decimated, obliterated and destroyed Francis Ngannou 'Anthony Joshua has just obliterated Francis Ngannou 'A fighter who was up until that point in his combat career appearing, to be invulnerable to physical attacks'.

                    Such was the extreme of Joshua's victory it has sent shockwaves around the world 'Those shockwaves have altered the perception that fighters have of Ngannou​. Whether Ngannou decides to continue in boxing or mixed martial arts, fighters are going to be confronting him differently now'.

                    And in most recent times Tyson Fury has lost his WBC Heavyweight title to Oleksandr Uysk 'And was severely beaten in the 9th round, potentially damaged and hurt more than he has ever been before'.

                    The competition to see who will be the last man standing of this Heavyweight era 'Have moved back towards Oleksandr Usyk and Anthony Joshua'.

                    Tyson Fury from observation is hanging on 'The Heavyweight Championship of the World, is like Thor's Hammer. And once upon a time, Tyson Fury somehow picked up that Hammer and aloft the power'. But over a duration of time, it became clear that Fury was not worthy of holding onto so much power. Tyson Fury as a Champion never took on all comers, and he very rarely fought consistently at World or Elite level. Tyson Fury had to let go of the hammer, effectively when he fought Oleksandr Uysk that is what happened, but to Tyson Fury's credit, he is aspiring to aloft that Heavyweight Hammer again'.

                    Note: People deny the situation and dynamic in the Heavyweight Division all they want 'But that situation and dynamic is still in effect currently right now as we speak'. Anthony Joshua is the only double jeopardy threat in the Heavyweight Division, he is the one of the most component and proven skill for skill pure boxers and also? Anthony Joshua is one of the most proven power punchers in the division. No other Heavyweight in the division has that combination of attributes and level of threat at such a high level, Anthony Joshua is the only one'.

                    Because of this, people who are honest with themselves are aware 'That if Joshua combines and utilizes all of his power, it is over for all of these top level Heavyweights. Nobody will be surprised if Daniel Dubois does not make it past the 3rd round. And in regard to all the other top level Heavyweights in the division a similar perception can be envisioned, Zhilei Zhang, Joseph Parker, Filip Hrgovic, Agit Kabayel, Andy Ruiz Junior, it will be over for all of these fighters'.

                    To conclude: Certain folk within the boxing community can continue to mock and devalue the threat of Anthony Joshua, If people want to continue behaving this way, they can potentially at their own peril' etc.

                    Atypicalbrit
                    Joshua for sure could beat usyk in a 3rd fight. But I think others deserve a shot at usyk in their first attempt, rather than 3rd.
                    I think dubois v josh is a close fight. Id sway towards Josh to win. Dubois hits hard.

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                    • PRINCEKOOL
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                      Originally posted by hugh grant

                      Joshua for sure could beat usyk in a 3rd fight. But I think others deserve a shot at usyk in their first attempt, rather than 3rd.
                      I think dubois v josh is a close fight. Id sway towards Josh to win. Dubois hits hard.
                      If Anthony Joshua beats Daniel Dubois, and becomes the IBF World Champion 'No other Heavyweight besides Tyson Fury, should be fighting Oleksandr Uysk'.

                      I have stated this before? There have been three Heavyweight Mountains of this era 'Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua. Oleksandr Uysk historically is quite a recent factor in the division, it was mainly those other three fighters who? Cleared out the Heavyweight Division, with Anthony Joshua statistically being the Champion who beat the most top level Heavyweights'.

                      This has ultimately been their Heavyweight era 'All of the other fighters in the Heavyweight Division, are there to be match up on their undercard events. That is no disrespect, but you have the ask the question? Where have these other Heavyweight fighters been over the past decade?'

                      The facts of Heavyweight boxing history is, that all the Catalytic moments and fights of this Heavyweight era 'Have been directly caused by Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua. They have been involved in all of the main catalytic fights of this era'.

                      If this Heavyweight era was a movie, then Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua are the main characters'.

                      People need to understand, that Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, Oleksandr Uysk and Anthony Joshua 'Have been embroiled in their own separate Heavyweight Competition. The competition to see who will be the last man standing from their Heavyweight era'.

                      These so called other Heavyweight's, that certain folk believe 'Deserve a title fight over Anthony Joshua. They have not been at any point the main characters of this Heavyweight era block buster movie. They are like characters turning up, three quarte's of the way through a movie and being involved in a solid scene'.

                      When their was pressure for Mike Tyson to fight Lennox Lewis in the early 2000's 'There would of been other Heavyweight's at the time, who certain people may have thought? Well I think this other Heavyweight deserves a fight with Lennox Lewis'.

                      Right now, we are in a similar situation 'Of course there are other fighters in the game, but what feats have they achieved that even compare to the exploit's of Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua. They are not even operating in the same stratosphere, those are the facts of the Heavyweight Division'.

                      The only fighter who outside of Tyson Fury, and Anthony Joshua 'Who is deserving of a title fight after them, is Joseph Parker. And this is because once upon a time, he was a WBO World Heavyweight Champion, he has not exactly played the same part of clearing out the division like Fury, Wilder and Joshua. But he has endured and perseveres through the post Kiltschko Heavyweight era'.

                      To conclude: Anthony Joshua may have been beaten by Oleksandr Uysk twice 'But nobody can really describe Uysk's wins as completely dominant and conclusive. Anthony Joshua conclusively knocked out Wladimir Kiltschko, and took the Heavyweight into a completely new dynasty 'This is what I mean, by a conclusively win'.

                      Anthony Joshua if he ever fights ether Oleksandr Uysk in the third fight, or Tyson Fury 'What I can envision, is that? Anthony Joshua has the ability to go beyond just being Uysk and Fury on points, there is a high likely-hood in my opinion that he is taking both of these fighters out. Because as I have stated before, Anthony Joshua is the only double jeopardy threat in the Heavyweight Division, he is the one of the most component and proven skill for skill pure boxers and also? Anthony Joshua is one of the most proven power punchers in the division. No other Heavyweight in the division has that combination of attributes and level of threat at such a high level, Anthony Joshua is the only one'.

                      'That if Joshua combines and utilizes all of his power, it is over for all of these top level Heavyweights'. The only way Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Uysk can get out of this situation, is if they don't fight Joshua.

                      There is a difference in the level of threat, and jeopardy between Fury, Uysk and Joshua. If Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Uysk execute their best performances, they are wining fights on points and maybe they will force a stoppage. If Anthony Joshua execute's his best performances, it is over. Joshua is obliterating, decimating and destroying all of these other top level Heavyweights' etc.






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