Comments Thread For: Walk Away or Fight On? Devin Haney Confronts His Moment of Truth

[turnedup]

Why isn't more sympathy illicited towards Haney?

When Margarito cheated with Cotto people were sympathetic. There was no question about it. Not like with Haney and there's a reason for that. Cotto was perceived as a stand-up guy because of the way he handled himself.

Haney lost that fight, it's unfortunate they were some hijinks involved, but he's not undefeated. He knew he was taking the fight under conditions that were sketchy but he wanted to take that fight.

The weight was a factor, probably more than the steroids... And perhaps the biggest factor to the loss, was how he underestimated Ryan. Haney is responsible for this spectacular meltdown as much as Ryan for cheating.

I think Haney's father creates a lot of problems for him. He really has to deal with this situation as a stand-up guy. Do what Cotto did, rematch the cheater and show your better.

I’ve rewatched that cotto fight I can’t tell you how many times with the punches Miguel ate in that fight, if Margarito actually had loaded wraps he would’ve left him dead in the ring. I implore people to go rewatch that fight and put your feelings aside and just watch the punches that do land. I still stand by Margarito wouldve killed cotto that night if he had wraps. Cause cotto walked into almost every punch that landed; was notorious for doing a semi squat to be defensive and Margarito was the first to actually capitalize on it. Personally have been of the opinion the wraps were introduced in the mosley fight because of how nasty they were to each other. Having seen the long term effects of fighters who’ve been hit with plaster of Paris shots, wayyyy less than cotto did, I still stand by he would’ve died that night. Do I like Margarito? Hell no. Did I lose money on cotto? Yes, a good sum but even I can admit after wed hi f and watching that fight that cotto tried to get into a slugfest rather than box and got taxed for it. Margarito still a cheated but cotto fought ******ly that night.

[Roberto Vasquez]

I agree that this fight should have been annulled but Haney needs to stop whining and get back in the ring. Garcia still beat him even tho he was juiced and over weight. He still landed those punches on Haney. Haney needs to drop that ego and fix some of his flaws.

[MulaKO]

Drop the WBC belt and fight Teofimo Lopez! That should get you at least $5 Million in guarantee, and a cut of PPV! Don’t sit down, MAN UP!!!

You forgot to mention another L on his ledger
Teo will crack that jaw like plates are broken at a Greek wedding

[smith3536]

The difference is that Haney now knows what could happen if a power punch catches him. He will inevitably go to 147 and things will get complicated there if he doesn't change the team and learn to make adjustments.

Ryan, who isn't even elite, managed to do it 3 times.

[MulaKO]

Why isn't more sympathy illicited towards Haney?

When Margarito cheated with Cotto people were sympathetic. There was no question about it. Not like with Haney and there's a reason for that. Cotto was perceived as a stand-up guy because of the way he handled himself.

Haney lost that fight, it's unfortunate they were some hijinks involved, but he's not undefeated. He knew he was taking the fight under conditions that were sketchy but he wanted to take that fight.

The weight was a factor, probably more than the steroids... And perhaps the biggest factor to the loss, was how he underestimated Ryan. Haney is responsible for this spectacular meltdown as much as Ryan for cheating.

I think Haney's father creates a lot of problems for him. He really has to deal with this situation as a stand-up guy. Do what Cotto did, rematch the cheater and show your better.

That was exactly my thinking ; the 3 pounds overweight more than likely did more damage to Haney than the peds
Peds don’t make you a better boxer , skills were there before and will be there after
Haney is just that , an ungrateful human being ( not to mention Bill ) and overlooked and made the fight with Ryan personal
This goes way beyond the Garcia fight

[smith3536]

Haney rehydrated to 165 pounds for his fight against Prograis. Prograis weighed almost 157lbs on fight night. 25lbs is a lot, not everyone can do this.

Ryan may have come with 3lbs more to stay at the same weight in the fight or close to it (~165lbs), nullifying any advantage of the weight bully. You never know

[SUBZER0ED]

100% sympathy for Haney over Garcia cheating. But that's where it stops. Article seems to imply that because Haney got big money for the Garcia fight, he should get a similar amount for all fights? Like we should feel bad because a champ is expected to face a top contender without getting an 8 figure payday.

It doesn't seem an insult at all to be paid 1.6M when you're not a draw and your opponent's not a draw. Purse bids reveal the truth, if the fight was worth more, there would've been bids to back that up.

Martin beat Garcia, also beat Teo in the eyes of a lot of people. It seems like he's too much risk. Let's be honest, Garcia didn't earn the shot at Haney, but Haney wanted a big payday for a fight he was a big favourite in, and he got his wish. So now Haney got the big payday for the cherry-pick (gone wrong) he should fight the top contender.

Agreed, I understand that Haney was greatly wronged by Garcia, but his consolation shouldn't be an undeserved large purse vs Martin. No matter how tough the guy is. That $1.6 million plus whatever other profits he would get from the fight is still a lot of money to be added to his bank account.

[rickJen]

If there is no deadline whether to accept the Martin fight or not, why does this even matter?
The article says nothing about it.

[Smash]

"To come back [from Garcia] against someone so tough for $1.5 million when you’re used to making 10 times that amount, I understand"

huh does he think haney is getting 15 mil per fight LMAO

is this guy on drugs?

[djtmal]

What happened to boxing man.

When Sugar Ray, lost his 0 in a tough brutal fight to Duran (prolly 15 rounds in those days). Sugar Ray said get me that mofo back in the ring asap.

Now one loss, and these coddled dudes are contemplating whether they will ever fight again.