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  • Willie Pep 229
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    Tyson-Paul postponed - why?

    I am wondering if they (the promoters) were dissatisfied with ticket sales and decided to pull the fight with the intent to rethink their whole promotional strategy.

    Does anyone know how 'live ticket' sales were going? That Dallas Cowboy's stadium is a big venue to fill, especially if you are greedy with high ticket prices.

    Am I being too conspiracy minded or was the fight headed for promoter embarrassment with a half empty stadium and they decided to pull the deal with a vague medical claim?

    While the new date falls on November 15th, in the heart of the NFL season, it is actually a non-football night.

    While on the other hand the July 20th date fell close to the start of the Olympics in Paris.

    So were too many of the big spenders, (Ringside seat buyers), the "whales" already planning their Paris trip for the opening ceremony on the 26th and saw Texas (Paul-Tyson) not worth the detour?

    Does anyone know how well ticket sales were going? (And no, an announcement by the promoters doesn't count.)

    P.S. November 18th is a Monday night game hosted by Dallas and will be broadcast by ABC, so the broadcast team and monied people can come into town Friday (Nov. 15th) and experience a weekend double-header.

    ABC has had a long term deal since 2010 with Netflix. ABC produces and Netflix distributes.

    P.S.S. This new date reduces Tyson-Paul down to a preliminary event boosted by the Cowboys Monday night game.

    Let's be honest, Tyson-Paul isn't a premere event and probably needs help with ticket sales. Yes, I am saying Monday night football is a bigger draw then Tyson-Paul.
    Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 06-08-2024, 01:33 PM.
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    Tyson-Jones sold 1.6 million PPVs as an exhibition in an era when a million PPVs was thought to be a thing of the past. And no one gives a **** about Roy these days.

    To suggest Tyson-Paul will not be one of the biggest events of this era is simple case of denial on your part. It would be bigger than Mayweather-Paul.

    Tyson had a medical emergency the other day and had to go to the ER. After some back-and-forth, they postponed it to make sure he had recovered before resuming training/fighting. He's nearly 60 years old and has spent most of the time since he retired doing drugs and binge drinking. His body can't handle anything close to a training camp. He said after that viral video of him hitting the bag, he was in bed for 3 days.

    The event, if it happened, would be massive. But going into the ring against Paul could be suicide on Mike's part - too old, too unhealthy. I think ultimately he pulls out and gets replaced.
    Last edited by paul77; 06-08-2024, 01:36 PM.

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      If this was a exhibition the fight would be a go...it's well known Mike Tyson uses trt, with the fight being a pro match I'm sure their are stipulations against roids therefore Mike needed a excuse to cycle


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        Tyson - Paul, why?

        fixed that for you

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          #5
          Because Tyson appeared to be too young, Paul needs a couple of years more

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            Originally posted by paul77
            Tyson-Jones sold 1.6 million PPVs as an exhibition in an era when a million PPVs was thought to be a thing of the past. And no one gives a **** about Roy these days.

            To suggest Tyson-Paul will not be one of the biggest events of this era is simple case of denial on your part. It would be bigger than Mayweather-Paul.

            Tyson had a medical emergency the other day and had to go to the ER. After some back-and-forth, they postponed it to make sure he had recovered before resuming training/fighting. He's nearly 60 years old and has spent most of the time since he retired doing drugs and binge drinking. His body can't handle anything close to a training camp. He said after that viral video of him hitting the bag, he was in bed for 3 days.

            The event, if it happened, would be massive. But going into the ring against Paul could be suicide on Mike's part - too old, too unhealthy. I think ultimately he pulls out and gets replaced.
            I believe there is no PPV. It is a Netflix promotion. The question at hand isn't about PPV buys, my question is, can they fill the stadium?

            Put aside my suggestion regarding Tyson's injury and look at the new date (Nov. 15th) they chose.

            In regards to your claim it will be massive, I question that validity.

            You may be looking at this through a boxing fan's prism. But then again, maybe not. We'll see in November.

            You didn't address my post except in an irrelevant first sentence regarding PPV buys and then you did what a good fight fan will always do, you talked about the fight itself.

            I am looking at the promotional decisions made not the value of the fight itself.

            But I stand on my assessment, I think the new date is trying to coat-tail the Monday Night Dalles game.

            This also puts the ABC technical crew on site and that's cost effective, being that some trust company called Marvel Enterainment owns both Netflix and ABC.
            Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 06-08-2024, 02:12 PM.

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              Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

              I believe there is no PPV. It is a Netflix promotion. The question at hand isn't about PPV buys, my question is, can they fill the stadium?

              Put aside my suggestion regarding Tyson's injury and look at the new date (Nov. 15th) they chose.

              In regards to your claim it will be massive, I question that validity.

              You may be looking at this through a boxing fan's prism. But then again, maybe not. Well see in November.

              You didn't address my post except in an irrelevant first sentence regarding PPV buys and then you did what a good fight fan will always do, you talked about the fight itself.

              I am looking at the promotional decisions made not the value of the fight itself.

              But I stand on my assessment, I think the new date is trying to coat-tail the Monday Night Dalles game.
              It seems like you don't know how any of this works, so here we go: Half empty stadiums and arenas turn a profit. So the notion of moving the date because not enough ticket were being sold when Netflix is paying for the event outright is laughable.

              Every summer Live Nation books acts into arenas and stadiums that can only fill them part of the way, then "papers" the event - fills the seats with discounted tickets, free tickets, etc. People then come and fill the seats and spend money at the venue. In the end, those acts that only sold a fraction of available tickets make money and so does the venue even without the help of Netflix dropping $40+ million dollars into the pot.

              But by all means, continue to stand by your hilarious assessment.

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                Originally posted by paul77

                It seems like you don't know how any of this works, so here we go: Half empty stadiums and arenas turn a profit. So the notion of moving the date because not enough ticket were being sold when Netflix is paying for the event outright is laughable.

                Every summer Live Nation books acts into arenas and stadiums that can only fill them part of the way, then "papers" the event - fills the seats with discounted tickets, free tickets, etc. People then come and fill the seats and spend money at the venue. In the end, those acts that only sold a fraction of available tickets make money and so does the venue even without the help of Netflix dropping $40+ million dollars into the pot.

                But by all means, continue to stand by your hilarious assessment.
                Unnecessarily rude. Guess you have an agenda. Sorry for the bubble burst.

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