Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua Waiting on Verdict From IBF Before Choosing September Foe

[James]

Yeah Parker is the safer fight, even though he’s arguably a better fighter than Dubois.

Confidence is key with AJ, he’s already dealt with Parker and beat him quite comfortably too. Dubois brings the unknown. I’d favour Joshua against both but Dubois is the more dangerous and interesting fight.

I disagree, Parker was younger and back then he was not ready to go to the war. Now he is different fighter. He is bigger and mentaly stronger. He is ready for WAR.

DDD is dirty, trows low blows and usies his head to hit opponents head. That is only reason why DDD is dangerous.

[James]

My point still remains. Tying up the belts because of a rematch clause BEFORE the first fight is not good for boxing.
Heck being undisputed and owning multiple belts brings with it mandatory obligations whether we like it or not.

Its easy to say "What contenders are there though" and I am pretty sure unless given the chance fighters like Kabayel would not have been on anyone's radar.
A motivated Andy Ruiz is a dangerous fight for anyone in the division. Getting a title shot has never been based on whether you were undefeated.

Belts are not anyone's private property. You win them, you assume the obligation to defend them and not hold them hostage while d1cking around with a rematch!!!

I agree!!

[James]

Hopkins and Holyfield say " Hold my beer ! ".

That is True

[PRINCEKOOL]

If Dubois vs Joshua is not sanction for the IBF Title then really 'The fight does not have much significant for Anthony Joshua'.

As I have stated in some of my previous posts, the match making in Anthony Joshua's career now 'Needs to be of a very high standard. Just making a fight between two UK based fighters, because their from the UK is not really a good enough reason to stage the fight for Joshua'.

Anthony Joshua is a Olympic Champion, Former Two time World Heavyweight Champion 'He has already stood at the top of the mountain, and remained their for a very long time in the game. Joshua is one of the three Heavyweight mountains of this Heavyweight era, if? This Heavyweight Boxing era was being made into a movie, then Joshua is one of the main characters'.

Joshua needs to be in fights where he is gaining something with the win, even beyond World titles 'Joshua in his last two fights, even though they were not World title fights. He was acquiring accolades and credit. With his individual performances, and because there where narratives and theme's attack to his fights'.

Note: When I observe the Heavyweight Division, if people are really honest? Outside of Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Uysk 'There are not much more fights, Joshua can be involved in where he is actually gaining anything. And this is because Anthony Joshua is already proven many times over at World and Elite level, he has been the Heavyweight Champion of this era who has taken on and beaten the most top level fighters'.

People need to ask themselves the question, what fight next does Anthony Joshua have to take 'Which proves something we don't already know about him?'.

If Joshua fights and beats Parker again, Zhang again, or Obliterates Dubois 'Does this really prove anything new? No. The reality is people are aware in boxing the level of Anthony Joshua, he is the most component proven pure boxer within the Heavyweight Division outside of both Oleksandr Uysk and Tyson Fury. And there is a definitive debate now, that Anthony Joshua may even be rated as the second best Heavyweight in the Division on pure performance'.

Interesting thing is, you have some people here claiming that Anthony Joshua has to earn another title fight 'Well if that is the case, how does Joshua go about achieving suc a position ? Fighting Joseph Parker and Zhilei Zhang?'.

Do you guys see what I have just done there? Anthony Joshua has already beaten Joseph Parker quite easily 'And he has beaten Zhilei Zhang in the Olympics'.

Parker vs Joshua II, and Zhang vs Joshua 'Are not really big block buster fights. And Dubois vs Joshua, with no World titles on the line is quite a insignificant fight for Anthony Joshua'.

Note: I honestly believe the next best fight to make for Anthony Joshua, outside a World title fight is Ruiz Junior vs Joshua III 'Because this is the one of the only fights, outside of a title fight that has a real historical significant for Anthony Joshua'.

There are still people within the boxing community, who promote the narrative that Anthony Joshua is petrified of other Heavyweight fighters. There are still people who try and claim that Joshua's first loss to Ruiz Junior, was one of the most serve beat downs in boxing history. When in reality it was not that type of fight, Joshua was the first to hurt Ruiz Junior then? Ruiz Junior hurt Joshua. Anthony Joshua then actually fought his way back into the fight, before eventually being stopped on his feet in his corner with smile on his face. It was not a great performance by Joshua, but lets all be real? There have been by far more worst losses, boxers have suffered in their careers'.

So if people genuinely believe that whatever they think Ruiz Junior did to Joshua in the first fight 'Was really that bad, and brutal'. Then I don't think they would want to see Ruiz Junior vs Joshua III, because I believe that Joshua has the ability to beat down Ruiz Junior in a very brutal manner'. And that would actually be the motive for the fight, because what do you know? Anthony Joshua has already avenge his loss to Andy Ruiz Junior, and beaten him pretty much 12-0 over the distance'.

To conclude: If Anthony Joshua is not able to fight for a World title next 'Then the fights made for him, need to be fights which have a narrative, story and theme. Because those are the factors which build intrigued and create block buster fights'.

Andy Ruiz Junior vs Anthony Joshua III 'Is the next best fight for Joshua, outside of a title fight in that regards'. etc.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I disagree, Parker was younger and back then he was not ready to go to the war. Now he is different fighter. He is bigger and mentaly stronger. He is ready for WAR.

DDD is dirty, trows low blows and usies his head to hit opponents head. That is only reason why DDD is dangerous.

Generally speaking fighters are much more hungry when they’re younger, undefeated and have less money in the bank. I haven’t seen enough to suggest otherwise in the case of Parker. I’d much prefer to see the newer/fresher matchup.

[takenotes]

I think AJ should wait out the Fury Usyk 2 winner. Just take a stay busy fight till then.

[pollywog]

Who told you IBF and WBO will be on the line?

Usyk just had his extension approved with the IBF and Dubois aint even WBO interim.

You dont know *******

Parker is WBO interim, Doobie is IBF.

If Usyk retired tomorrow those guys would pick up the straps.

If Joshua fights either and wins then he becomes champ in waiting.

Do try to keep up!

[TMLT87]

AJ/Dubois doesnt excite me too much tbh. I credit DDD for being so battle tested at a relatively young age but hes nothing special really. AJ is faster, more experienced, more skilled, hits at least as hard, probably harder. I'd much rather see AJ/Zhang given Zhangs size and power, either that or a Parker rematch as Parker is in his prime still, athletic, quick, good chin.

[observer]

Usyk already knocked out Dubois on a jab and he beat Joshua twice over 24 rounds. There is absolutely zero argument for taking Usyk's belt and giving it to the winner of a fight between them. The IBF is not worth preserving as an entity and their rules are worthless if they strip the undisputed champion to give it to the winner of a fight between a guy he beat twice and a guy he knocked out on a jab.

That's the whole point of rules. They won't give you a decision everybody will be happy with every time. But on the balance they bring more good than bad.

I argue that giving young hungry boxers a chance is worth more than keeping unified champions unified. The whole reason being a unified champion is a big thing is because it's hard to keep titles together. If IBF was happy to let biggest cash cows keep their titles no matter what, like the rest of the alphabet organizations do, then every champion would be unified.

Once you give one exception, it's very hard to justify not giving another one.

[famicommander]

That's the whole point of rules. They won't give you a decision everybody will be happy with every time. But on the balance they bring more good than bad.

I argue that giving young hungry boxers a chance is worth more than keeping unified champions unified. The whole reason being a unified champion is a big thing is because it's hard to keep titles together. If IBF was happy to let biggest cash cows keep their titles no matter what, like the rest of the alphabet organizations do, then every champion would be unified.

Once you give one exception, it's very hard to justify not giving another one.

There's only one real champion in any given division. If the IBF wants to take their belt away from that champion and give it to the winner of a fight between a guy he knocked out with a jab and a guy he beat twice over 24 rounds, the IBF simply should cease to exist. It's that simple. They have zero value as an organization in that instance.