Who do you rank higher? Evander Holyfield or Oleksandr Usyk. SERIOUS DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD.

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  • JimRaynor
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    #11
    At strictly Heavyweight it’s Holyfield if it’s Cruiserweight and Heavyweight then Usyk.

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    • Jdasilva2012
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      #12
      It's really sad that boxing has reduced to this low level knowledge of the game. I would understand if you ask who do you like more? but who do you rank higher? is disrespectful for both Holyfield and the boxing community.

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      • HandsofIron
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        #13
        Usyk over Evan Fields.

        Fields needed Ryan Garcia powah pellets to move up to Heavyweight and still took some losses at HW.

        Undefeated Usyk beat Super Heavyweights who outweighed him by at least 30-40 lbs.

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        • Toffee
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          #14
          Lack of time to leave a legacy at heavyweight hurts Usyk.

          Doing it in the first place is impressive, but to keep on doing it over a long period is something else.

          ​​​​​​​Head to head though, I'd take Usyk. Those three performances over Joshua and Fury are as good as anything I've seen in the division.

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          • Teetotaler83
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            #15
            Usyk is higher without a doubt. He's not a drug cheat like holyfield

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            • HeadShots
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              #16
              but losses count. if every loss countered every defining win of holyfield's career, what would his resume look like?


              usyk doesn't have such a counter weight. His record is perfect. quality > quantity. period.

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                #17
                Originally posted by JimRaynor
                At strictly Heavyweight it’s Holyfield if it’s Cruiserweight and Heavyweight then Usyk.
                No chance. Holyfield doesn't have thw power to trouble Usyk and Usyk has fantastic ability to keep the fight where he wants- away from any inside fighting that would favour Evander.

                Stylistic nightmare for Evander. Usyk also heavier, taller and longer reach, as well as having 10x better movement and far far better skills.

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                • The D3vil
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by HeadShots
                  Usyk. Losses have a price at the elite level.


                  I don’t think Holyfield has a win as good as undefeated tyson fury.
                  Are you stoned?

                  The prime version of Rid**** Bowe would beat the living dog shxt out of a 35 year old Tyson Fury.

                  Hell, the Lennox Lewis that Holyfield gave trouble with would definitely whoop the 35 year old Tyson Fury.

                  Originally posted by Pac=Duran
                  Holyfield was surpassed when Usyk beat Joshua the 2nd time.

                  It's not close at all. Holyfield lost to many lower tier guys.


                  You gotta be one of AJ's English muffins.

                  Yeah, beating the guy who got rag dolled by Andy Ruiz made him better than the man who beat the prime Rid**** Bowe

                  Originally posted by HandsofIron
                  Usyk over Evan Fields.

                  Fields needed Ryan Garcia powah pellets to move up to Heavyweight and still took some losses at HW.

                  Undefeated Usyk beat Super Heavyweights who outweighed him by at least 30-40 lbs.
                  Now, this I kinda agree with, though Usyk being a former Middleweight, who lost to Shawn Porter in the amateurs to being a 235lb HW who can hang with Tyson Fury is about as su****ious as it gets.

                  Originally posted by Teetotaler83
                  Usyk is higher without a doubt. He's not a drug cheat like holyfield
                  Not a PROVEN drug cheat.

                  Like I said, the dude's ganed about 70lbs as an adult and isn't morbidly obese, that's sus as fxck.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The D3vil

                    Are you stoned?

                    The prime version of Rid**** Bowe would beat the living dog shxt out of a 35 year old Tyson Fury.

                    Hell, the Lennox Lewis that Holyfield gave trouble with would definitely whoop the 35 year old Tyson Fury.





                    You gotta be one of AJ's English muffins.

                    Yeah, beating the guy who got rag dolled by Andy Ruiz made him better than the man who beat the prime Rid**** Bowe



                    Now, this I kinda agree with, though Usyk being a former Middleweight, who lost to Shawn Porter in the amateurs to being a 235lb HW who can hang with Tyson Fury is about as su****ious as it gets.



                    Not a PROVEN drug cheat.

                    Like I said, the dude's ganed about 70lbs as an adult and isn't morbidly obese, that's sus as fxck.
                    Cope boy. Not the first time I make you my bltch. Back down

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                    • Pac=Duran
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The D3vil

                      Are you stoned?

                      The prime version of Rid**** Bowe would beat the living dog shxt out of a 35 year old Tyson Fury.

                      Hell, the Lennox Lewis that Holyfield gave trouble with would definitely whoop the 35 year old Tyson Fury.





                      You gotta be one of AJ's English muffins.

                      Yeah, beating the guy who got rag dolled by Andy Ruiz made him better than the man who beat the prime Rid**** Bowe



                      Now, this I kinda agree with, though Usyk being a former Middleweight, who lost to Shawn Porter in the amateurs to being a 235lb HW who can hang with Tyson Fury is about as su****ious as it gets.



                      Not a PROVEN drug cheat.

                      Like I said, the dude's ganed about 70lbs as an adult and isn't morbidly obese, that's sus as fxck.
                      Rid**** Bowe the man that threw his belt in the trash rather than unify? The king of all Yank frauds tbh.

                      He was an OK fighter but a win over him doesn't put Evander above Usyk. Holyfield lost to Fat Toney and Moorer ffs.

                      He's small and unskilled compared to Usyk.

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