Wilder v Miller - who wins now?

[Weebler I]

Both are on the outside looking in, but a win for either probably gets them another big fight.

But who wins at this stage? the Bronze Bomber or Big Baby Miller?

[JakeTheBoxer]

Please. They are both done. Ruiz will finish Miller`s career.

[PBR Streetgang]

Talk about irrelevance. Wilder is clearly shot to pieces, he looked even more spindly and fragile in there than I ever recall. He's a significantly diminished version of his best years (and even at his best he was incredibly flawed). Most importantly, I don't think he wants to fight anymore. You can see it in his body language.

Miller's best version was years ago and required copious amounts of PEDs to make that happen. He's just a trash-talking punching bag at this stage, hoping to make a few bucks.

Turki seems to have some weird matchups percolating in his brain so nothing would surprise me but I'd prefer not seeing either one in the ring again.

[Zelda]

Wilder is totally done and I am not sure Miller is any good either but we will find out in his next fight. Andy too doesn't seem to be much interested in boxing. As many people have said, boxing is more mental than physical game because most boxers at the elite level are physically strong.

I believe during COVID-19 and the subsequent years, HW boxing has deteriorated in the US (not that it was booming before). There were long times of inactivity and low money for the boxers to be motivated to be in their top conditions and fight regularly. Everyone got engaged in other stuff and distracted. Now that the Saudi money is there, some of them are having a change of heart but want the quick buck rather than going through a rebuilding process to get back to top condition. That's not how it works.

Without the heart and mind in boxing, even Ali lost to a lesser fighter and Tyson quit on his stool. Call it lack of motivation, inactivity, father time, losing interest, or whatever but it catches up with everyone.

[hugh grant]

Wilder needs tough chin dude on his resume. Otherwise it will be Zhang whose this era Ernie shavers