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  • HandsofIron
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    #31
    Originally posted by boxingitis

    Oscar came down from 160, no comparison to this fight. Martinez was old and both knees were damage/ injury. Well make sure you bet if Crawford fights Canelo. It will be easier than the Charlo fight. You are still impressed by Crawford beating a WEIGHT drain, one eye Zombie coming out of a year lay off. Crawford might be more skill than Canelo but he doesn’t have the power to hurt Canelo and doesn't have the punch resistance to handle Canelo's power.
    Yup, Crawford doesn't have the durability. I mean, 154 is dangerous enough already for him and we're talking all the way up to 168. Absolutely crazy.

    We all saw what happened to Kell Brook when he moved up from 147 to 160 to fight GGG, got his eye smashed in and ruined him as a fighter forever. And that was just 2 weight classes. Crawford wants to try a 3 weight class jump, very dumb move on his part.

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    • boxingitis
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      #32
      Originally posted by Jab jab boom
      There’s always going to be an excuse for why someone matched up differently but most boxing fans know that your logic is irrational and makes 0 sense. Canelo couldn’t stop a weight drained Chavez jr but others did. Canelo couldn’t stop Ryder when others did. Does that really mean anything? Your logic as to how this match will play out is based on what you hope happens and not on much boxing related knowledge. If canelo found Crawford to be as easy as you think, he’d have taken the fight because the money is there. His logic for not getting credit and being in a lose lose situation is bullshyt because canelo has put himself in multiple lose lost situations whether it was fighting guys from smaller weight classes like Lopez, khan and charlo or fighting c level no hopers like Ryder and munguia. He’s just avoiding the risk that it brings which is what he’s been doing for quite some time now.
      Just like he beat Lopez, Khan, and Charlo that will be the same outcome vs Crawford. Most boxing "experts: know this, just some delusional casuals who believe Crawford can beat Canelo. Crawford can't even beat Plant, otherwise if it was that easy he would have done that an put himself in a better position, yet he is fighting an unkown fighter that no one cares about.

      Crawford wouldn't even be 3 time undisputed as Canelo already lost his IBF title. Crawford really wants PAY DAY, PAY DAY.
      Last edited by boxingitis; 05-31-2024, 11:44 AM.

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        #33
        Too much size difference. Crawford is a great Welterweight , Canelo is a great Super Middleweight. Crawford is no spring chicken either. Whatever he's going to do, he'd better hurry up and do it.

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        • Jab jab boom
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          #34
          Originally posted by boxingitis

          Just like he beat Lopez, Khan, and Charlo that will be the same outcome vs Crawford. Most boxing "experts: know this, just some delusional casuals who believe Crawford can beat Canelo. Crawford can't even beat Plant, otherwise if it was that easy he would have done that a put himself in a better position, yet he is fighting an unkown fighter that no one cares about.
          You comparing those 3 to Crawford is a joke. He’s significantly superior to all of them in every way. If canelo was as confident as you, he’d take the fight. But he’s not because he knows his skill level is well beneath Crawford. Crawford has put himself in a better position for this than anyone canelo has faced in years. Just like benavidez has. Yet canelo prefers the Munguia’s, charlos and ryders of the world. Watch berlanga be next. But keep giving canelo imaginary wins for guys that he avoids. Canelo fans are great at that.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Jab jab boom
            You comparing those 3 to Crawford is a joke. He’s significantly superior to all of them in every way. If canelo was as confident as you, he’d take the fight. But he’s not because he knows his skill level is well beneath Crawford. Crawford has put himself in a better position for this than anyone canelo has faced in years. Just like benavidez has. Yet canelo prefers the Munguia’s, charlos and ryders of the world. Watch berlanga be next. But keep giving canelo imaginary wins for guys that he avoids. Canelo fans are great at that.
            Crawford can't even beat Plant, if he was that confident in his skills he should have done that and position himself in a better position to fight Canelo, yet he is fighting an "unknown" fighter no one cares about. Only fan boys and delusional think Crawford can beat Canelo. All Crawford wants is PAY DAY, that boy DUCKED Ennis.
            Last edited by boxingitis; 05-31-2024, 11:53 AM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by boxingitis

              Crawford can't even beat Plant, if he was that confident in his skills he should have done that and position himself in a better position to fight Canelo, yet he is fighting an "unknown" fighter no one cares about. Only fan boys and delusional think Crawford can beat Canelo. All Crawford wants is PAY DAY.
              Again, you’re going on assumptions and hope. And even then you’re trying to use triangle theories. This is quite embarrassing for you as you’re really exposing your lack of boxing knowledge. Here’s the reality, canelo has no valid reason to not fight either Crawford or benavidez. His reasons for not doing so are strictly do to avoidance of risk. So you can pretend what would happen in your world of unicorns and fairies but in the real world, canelo is avoiding these fights, and everyone knows it.
              Last edited by Jab jab boom; 05-31-2024, 11:55 AM.

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                #37
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                Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                Again, you’re going on assumptions and hope. And even then you’re trying to use triangle theories. This is quite embarrassing for you as you’re really exposing your lack of boxing knowledge. Here’s the reality, canelo has no valid reason to not fight either Crawford or benavidez. His reasons for not doing so are strictly do to avoidance of risk. So you can pretend what would happen in your world of unicorns and fairies but in the real world, canelo is avoiding these fights, and everyone knows it.
                Avoid is what Crawford did against Ennis. He has no valid reason to duck Ennis. He rather fight a guy with 10 fighs that no one knows. Crawford vs Ennis is much bigger fight than Crawford vs Madrimov, it's a clear duck.

                You already expose your Knowledge by thinking Crawford can beat Canelo. It's called delusion and you are falling for it. Crawford best win is a Weight Drain, one eye Zombie, with a year Layoff. Other than that he hasn't done ****.

                Old and beaten up,one foot in retirement Khan, Brook, and Porter.
                Last edited by boxingitis; 05-31-2024, 02:15 PM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                  If he’s not gonna fight benavidez, then this is the fight that makes the most sense. Financially it’ll do great and despite the size difference, don’t be fooled, this is a risky fight for canelo because Crawford’s skills significantly surpass those of Canelo’s. The risk is if canelo loses to someone who was a welterweight, his legacy falls significantly. That didn’t seem to bother him during all the years he was fighting smaller men and didn’t bother him when he picked charlo 2 fights ago, but now he suddenly seems to care and that’s because the risk of losing is greater.
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                  How will it do great financially if it’s in Saudi Arabia? Those guys don’t care about PPV - they are paying upfront money because they have the money.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                    You comparing those 3 to Crawford is a joke. He’s significantly superior to all of them in every way. If canelo was as confident as you, he’d take the fight. But he’s not because he knows his skill level is well beneath Crawford. Crawford has put himself in a better position for this than anyone canelo has faced in years. Just like benavidez has. Yet canelo prefers the Munguia’s, charlos and ryders of the world. Watch berlanga be next. But keep giving canelo imaginary wins for guys that he avoids. Canelo fans are great at that.
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                    Canelo not fighting Crawford isn’t because of lack of confidence. The size difference is just too much.
                    And to say “Crawford has put himself in a better position for this than anyone canelo has faced in years.​” is really stretching it.

                    Crawford is looking for that huge paycheck like everyone who wishes to fight Canelo. A loss will not dent Crawford’s legacy. Just to be clear, I am in agreement that Canelo is outrightly ducking Benavidez.
                    And Crawford has 100% ducked Boots. Beating Madrinov just gives Bud a belt. It is no different from his win over Khan or Brook - those were not legacy defining wins.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Teetotaler83
                      Of course he'll take it. Wtf, a mismatch and big payday? Why the fvkc would he not.

                      I'd love to see Andre coward cry after bud loses too.
                      Why would Ward cry?

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