Garcia cleared!

[Mammoth]

Only your dumbass can somehow turn this political lmfao

Only me, huh? Do we know each other or something? It isn't my fault Ryan's fanbase are culty weirdos.

[IronDanHamza]

Yea agree. I believe the standard is the testing group takes the product & batch number the boxer used & go buy it off the shelf & test it themselves.

Thats what can clear a fighter of intentional usage. The problem is unintentional usage is still a problem lol. No one gets cleared of PEDs in your system unless there is a testing issue. Its just the intention thats up for discussion.

Doesn't really matter either way because just because the one they select is contaminated doesn't mean that the one that Garcia took was.

[daggum]

oh yeah tr-ump was cleared too! he said so!

[Lance98]

He is not cleared yet. It's not confirmed. Stop with the clickbait and lies.

[Eff Pandas]

Doesn't really matter either way because just because the one they select is contaminated doesn't mean that the one that Garcia took was.

It matters as far as intentional or unintentional usage. And that will lessen or lengthen the time of his suspension.

Again the bigger issue here is who the fook is declaring this. If its just Team Ryan this means fook all. If there is a testing agency who have tested Ryan's supplement + bought it off the shelf with the same batch number & both have tested dirty for this banned supplement than he'll likely get off on the intentional usage part of this that would give him a longer punishment.

[IronDanHamza]

It matters as far as intentional or unintentional usage. And that will lessen or lengthen the time of his suspension.

Again the bigger issue here is who the fook is declaring this. If its just Team Ryan this means fook all. If there is a testing agency who have tested Ryan's supplement + bought it off the shelf with the same batch number & both have tested dirty for this banned supplement than he'll likely get off on the intentional usage part of this that would give him a longer punishment.

It actually doesn't matter, at all. It doesn't prove anything and I mean that in the literal sense. It doesn't demonstrably prove unintentional usage. It demonstrably proves that that specific supplement is contaminated and that is it. The one Ryan used, we have no idea and never will.

He will likely get off for intentional usage regardless. But that's a broken system issue.

[Eff Pandas]

It actually doesn't matter, at all. It doesn't prove anything and I mean that in the literal sense. It doesn't demonstrably prove unintentional usage. It demonstrably proves that that specific supplement is contaminated and that is it. The one Ryan used, we have no idea and never will.

He will likely get off for intentional usage regardless. But that's a broken system issue.

You're far too into semantics here vs how things work with determining intentional vs unintentional usage.

Sure its 100% possible that Ryan had some guys go search for supplements that had this banned substance in it to pretend he had taken it. But I'm also sure there is the testing agency doing some checks & balances on Ryan buying this supplement & taking it previous to the dirty test.

Again the real issue right now with this is Ryan can't proclaim a damn thing about this banned substance. A testing agency needs to confirm this situation with their process.

[IronDanHamza]

You're far too into semantics here vs how things work with determining intentional vs unintentional usage.

Sure its 100% possible that Ryan had some guys go search for supplements that had this banned substance in it to pretend he had taken it. But I'm also sure there is the testing agency doing some checks & balances on Ryan buying this supplement & taking it previous to the dirty test.

Again the real issue right now with this is Ryan can't proclaim a damn thing about this banned substance. A testing agency needs to confirm this situation with their process.

No, not really, nothing to so with semantics. I'm into what is demonstrably true and what's not.

Ryan can give them the exact brand of supplements he used and they can go and test a random one of the same, if it comes back positive for Ostarine that's all it will prove, that that specific item is contaminated. It doesn't prove his unintentional use even remotely. That is not how it works if we are talking about actually demonstrably proving it.

I'm sure the commission will happily use that as evidence for unintentional use because that is what they do, but it doesn't prove anything what so ever.

Contaminated supplements are a big problem, but not all of them are going to be contaminated.

[billeau2]

Only your dumbass can somehow turn this political lmfao

I used to get lots of shiat when I went to the monster car shows with my M A G A hat sideways, my "Jesus did not tap" MMA shirt stretched hard over my gigantic belly rollicking like a cheap water bed, armed with my Glock secured in the crack of my anus in case trouble was near. Ohyeah I was a certified b a d azz!!! When I yelled "lets make Murica great again" it was like a clap of thunder! And when some he she tried to grab my hat I knocked one of her fillings out! His girl friend snuck me... I will get that biatch!!!!

[Eff Pandas]

No, not really, nothing to so with semantics. I'm into what is demonstrably true and what's not.

Ryan can give them the exact brand of supplements he used and they can go and test a random one of the same, if it comes back positive for Ostarine that's all it will prove, that that specific item is contaminated. It doesn't prove his unintentional use even remotely.

I'm sure the commission will happily use that as evidence for unintentional use because that is what they do, but it doesn't prove anything what so ever.

Contaminated supplements are a big problem, but not all of them are going to be contaminated.

Obviously they didn't see him take the supplement in real time to 100% confirm he consumed it. Thats probably never happened ever in the history of unintentional PED usage.

I got no dog in this fight. But unintentional usage happens & how I stated it goes down is the minimum ik they do & I'm sure there is more to it than simply believing everything is good after that initial protocol is done.

And again this don't matter cuz Ryan can't confirm anything. A testing agency needs to do this in their way. No one is gonna or should believe the guy who popped dirty saying it was unintentional so this is much ado about nothing til that process goes down via a 3rd party dealing with this situation.