If Crawford wants to be as good as Usyk, he must beat Bivol, not Canelo

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That version of 160 GGG was way harder to beat than Canelo is today I bet TC wouldn't be pursuing that fight, and TC is bigger than Floyd and can gain more weight than Floyd, I thought Floyd vs GGG at the time was ridiculous, full sized WWs can fight at MW as they weigh around 160/5 on fight night, its rare that LWs and lower can fight prime full blown elite MWs, with comparisons the details of who when and what weight mean more than the raw weight does, fans hardly ever see the details.

Whatsup with Floyd weighin in 155 for the logan fight but not being able to cut that 2 lbs against Marquez for 144lbs, paying $400k+ or something.

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That version of 160 GGG was way harder to beat than Canelo is today I bet TC wouldn't be pursuing that fight, and TC is bigger than Floyd and can gain more weight than Floyd, I thought Floyd vs GGG at the time was ridiculous, full sized WWs can fight at MW as they weigh around 160/5 on fight night, its rare that LWs and lower can fight prime full blown elite MWs, with comparisons the details of who when and what weight mean more than the raw weight does, fans hardly ever see the details.

I'm not upset he didn't fight him, historically all great ww fought their mw counterpart, see Napoles, SRR, SRL, Armstrong and so on.

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Whatsup with Floyd weighin in 155 for the logan fight but not being able to cut that 2 lbs against Marquez for 144lbs, paying $400k+ or something.

You dont see the difference in 146 weighin Floyd and 12 years older retired for years with fat rolls Floyd being 155 lol, best you look at the fine print your glossing over details is comical.

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I'm not upset he didn't fight him, historically all great ww fought their mw counterpart, see Napoles, SRR, SRL, Armstrong and so on.

Because historicly they werent MWs by todays standards closer 154 guys and they were big WWs , when they split the divisions it changed the system.

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You dont see the difference in 146 weighin Floyd and 12 years older retired for years with fat rolls Floyd being 155 lol, best you look at the fine print your glossing over details is comical.

Yeah so he was heavier back then right. Yet in another thread you claimed Floyd never was past 155 in his prime look at the Logan fight. Because if he was heavier, and Crawford takes the Canelo fight and wins, he surpassed Floyd. Because Bud' vs 168 Canelo (maybe takes place) is Floyd' vs GGG fight (that never took place).

Actually I think that Floyd was around 165 in his 147 days. Doesn't look smaller than Haney currently who is 165. And GGG didn't cut more than 10 pounds according to Abel Sanchez. So on fight night it would be like 163-5, versus 170-1. Crawford taking this fight makes Floyd look like a duck in comparison. Massive credits to Crawford if he gets this fight, and put his 0 on the line.

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Because historicly they werent MWs by todays standards closer 154 guys and they were big WWs , when they split the divisions it changed the system.

Well, in Armstrong and SRR, mw were mw, the 154 division was created in 1962, Leonard and Hearns did fought at 154, as Duran, Napoles went straight for the MW belt. Also, they were not big ww's they were either lw, ww or mw, after 1962 jww, ww or jmw.

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Yeah so he was heavier back then right. Yet in another thread you claimed Floyd never was past 155 in his prime look at the Logan fight. Because if he was heavier, and Crawford takes the Canelo fight and wins, he surpassed Floyd. Because Bud' vs 168 Canelo (maybe takes place) is Floyd' vs GGG fight (that never took place).

Actually I think that Floyd was around 165 in his 147 days. Doesn't look smaller than Haney currently who is 165. And GGG didn't cut more than 10 pounds according to Abel Sanchez. So on fight night it would be like 163-5, versus 170-1. Crawford taking this fight makes Floyd look like a duck in comparison. Massive credits to Crawford if he gets this fight, and put his 0 on the line.

After all the discussions over the years I cant believe how little you actually take in.

I cant be bothered grinding out the mountain of stuff, just answer me this, Floyd has been weighed many times on fightnight across his career as much as any big name guy, so we know that across 20 yrs he was never officially weighed above 152 on fight night, can you explain to me where did he hide 13 pounds from JMM to Canelo, honestly I cant be bothered with idiots these days the proof is there in written record across a 20 yr career if you cant see whats real through the official data I cant help you.

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After all the discussions over the years I cant believe how little you actually take in.

I cant be bothered grinding out the mountain of stuff, just answer me this, Floyd has been weighed many times on fightnight across his career as much as any big name guy, so we know that across 20 yrs he was never officially weighed above 152 on fight night, can you explain to me where did he hide 13 pounds from JMM to Canelo, honestly I cant be bothered with idiots these days the proof is there in written record across a 20 yr career if you cant see whats real through the official data I cant help you.

So Haney looks 10lbs heavier than the Floyd that fought Cotto at 154?

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After all the discussions over the years I cant believe how little you actually take in.

I cant be bothered grinding out the mountain of stuff, just answer me this, Floyd has been weighed many times on fightnight across his career as much as any big name guy, so we know that across 20 yrs he was never officially weighed above 152 on fight night, can you explain to me where did he hide 13 pounds from JMM to Canelo, honestly I cant be bothered with idiots these days the proof is there in written record across a 20 yr career if you cant see whats real through the official data I cant help you.

This does not look like a 10lbs muscle mass advantage in favour of Haney ? Left Is Cotto Floyd, right is Haney Prograis weigh ins.

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After all the discussions over the years I cant believe how little you actually take in.

I cant be bothered grinding out the mountain of stuff, just answer me this, Floyd has been weighed many times on fightnight across his career as much as any big name guy, so we know that across 20 yrs he was never officially weighed above 152 on fight night, can you explain to me where did he hide 13 pounds from JMM to Canelo, honestly I cant be bothered with idiots these days the proof is there in written record across a 20 yr career if you cant see whats real through the official data I cant help you.

If you weigh in 165 you can just take a sauna and lose 10lbs+ easily, Then deceive your opponents that you are the light fighter. I wouldn't put those type of efforts beyond Mayweather. You know somebody who besides Haney used IVs for rehydration ?