We may see the last fight from Bronze bomber this weekend

[PBR Streetgang]

Him landing guarantees nothing. He landed at will, numerous times, on a limited Duhaupas without dropping the Frenchman a single time. Why do people keep repeating this "if he lands" stuff.

He lands clean on many of his limited opponents without dropping them in the instance or noticeably hurting them. After many of his clean shots fail to cause immediate damage, when a shot evenly does, people forget the many clean ones that landed with no visible effect (vs the limited Spilka comes to mind).

Against Zhang, he will need more than "if he lands".

Please inform me where I stated him landing his power guaranteed him anything. It landing clean and altering the fight is his most realistic chance (that and Zhang gassing) to win.

Wilder has many flaws but he has power. Many professional fighters who shared the ring with him have stated this. David Haye described his power as a "10 out of 10". I will take their opinions on the matter with a bit more weight than yours.

You bring up the Duhaupas fight. How about the Breazeale or Helenius fights? Or the first and third Fury fights?

I'm not even a Wilder fan but I acknowledge that he has fight changing power, more importantly so have those who have fought him.

[Toffee]

I have never liked him, but he is ovearchiever. Man started boxing by the age of 20. He won the Golen glove, won the bronze medal at olympics. Won WBC title and defended it many times. He made a huge money fighting Fury 3 times.

I think Zhang will finish his career, but it was actually a very good one, for the late blumer.

I've always been critical of Wilder. He was never the things he was built up to be. He was just very well protected.

But as these heavies head to the end of their career I'm feeling quite well disposed towards them. Wilder gave us some fun, he helped build the excitement toward eventually getting an Undisputed fighter, and he did have 3 fun fights with Fury (who I feel similarly about, on a different level of boxing ability).

If he had tried to clear out the division instead of just hanging onto the belt then he probably wouldn't have been much of note. We probably would have had an undisputed champion earlier but it wouldn't have been earned in the same way that Usyk did it.

Good luck to him against Zhang. I'm a bit torn - in some ways I want to see the myth of Wilder well and truly ended. But then if he can find a punch against the slow lump of a Chinaman we probably finally get Joshua v Wilder. Far too late but this era would still feel incomplete without it.

[HeadShots]

When GGG was doing it all you cared about was the rank of the opponent.

line up the top 10’s wilder beat vs ggg

[BoxOfficer]

Please inform me where I stated him landing his power guaranteed him anything. It landing clean and altering the fight is his most realistic chance (that and Zhang gassing) to win.

Wilder has many flaws but he has power. Many professional fighters who shared the ring with him have stated this. David Haye described him his power as a "10 out of 10". I will take their opinions on the matter with a bit more weight than yours.

You bring up the Duhaupas fight. How about the Breazeale or Helenius fights? Or the first and third Fury fights?

I'm not even a Wilder fan but I acknowledge that he has fight changing power, more importantly so have those who have fought him.

You're free to believe what you want. I even highlighted the section of your post for you to see but you missed it.

Haye is entitled to his opinion and has made many bold statements that have come back to bite him, same with almost everyone, me inclusive.

I don't tie my opinions with those of others. I don't parrot what others say or think. I look out for patterns and speak about them when I discover them by myself.

You spoke about Breazeale, Hellinuis, and Fury. Those guys have been either knocked out or dropped by other fighters. Does that make Cunningham, Usyk, Duhaupas, Washington, Ugonoh, and the others fearsome punchers?

I don't even like to speak about the Hellinuis fight because I consider it an obvious dive. My opinion. Which emphasizes my later point: you don't need dives here and there against weak oppositions if truly the power is legit.

The level of opposition says it all. Chisora knocked out Spilka in a devastating fashion in two. That shows you Spilka's level.

He needs guys with reputable chin to prove his power. He failed in that vs Parker. He needs to prove it against a Zhang, Hrgovic, Joyce, Ruiz.

My point is that I believe he punches far lesser than advertised. The patterns are clearly there to see.

[PRvazquez]

The pattern of Wilder haters ethnicity is Caucasian males who are Fury fans that make up these stories to make themselves feel better that Fury got put on his ass 4 times in 3 fights. You are trying to diminish Wilder as an opponent but give Fury all the credit . Fury lost to Usyk. Wilder has nothing to do with that. Usyk hopefully is smart and never faces wilder . I don't like that matchup for the champ. Usyk can go to sleep if wilder lands.

[hugh grant]

If wilder wins, it will be against grain. Sure wilder hits hard, but so does zhang., And Zhang got so much more too, so why would wilder win?
If wilder wins, you need to rip up rule book, we know nothing

[PBR Streetgang]

You're free to believe what you want. I even highlighted the section of your post for you to see but you missed it.

Haye is entitled to his opinion and has made many bold statements that have come back to bite him, same with almost everyone, me inclusive.

I don't tie my opinions with those of others. I don't parrot what others say or think. I look out for patterns and speak about them when I discover them by myself.

You spoke about Breazeale, Hellinuis, and Fury. Those guys have been either knocked out or dropped by other fighters. Does that make Cunningham, Usyk, Duhaupas, Washington, Ugonoh, and the others fearsome punchers?

I don't even like to speak about the Hellinuis fight because I consider it an obvious dive. My opinion. Which emphasizes my later point: you don't need dives here and there against weak oppositions if truly the power is legit.

The level of opposition says it all. Chisora knocked out Spilka in a devastating fashion in two. That shows you Spilka's level.

He needs guys with reputable chin to prove his power. He failed in that vs Parker. He needs to prove it against a Zhang, Hrgovic, Joyce, Ruiz.

My point is that I believe he punches far lesser than advertised. The patterns are clearly there to see.

Thanks for providing me with the freedom to believe what I want. It's appreciated. However you commented on my post so let's discuss.

"if he can land that dynamite on the chin of Zhang"

Again, I ask you where I stated him landing guaranteed him anything. Wilder isnt outboxing anyone not named Stiverne so he's going to have to rely on his power or for Zhang to gas out. He may land clean on Zhang and it not matter, but it's still his one of his only chances.

Between you and Haye, or you and Fury, or you or you and any number of boxers...the only one who seems to discount Wilder's power is you.

You mention Parker, however he said "“Both of those guys (Wilder and Zhang) have the ability to knock each other out.....With that fight, Zhang is dangerous in the first half and then sort of fades a bit, whereas Wilder is dangerous for the whole fight. Whoever can land a punch first really, because they’re both big power punchers.”

Parker also stated that Wilder never landed clean on him because of his defense. Power is one thing. Another thing is the ability to land it effectively. Wilder has power but not always the ability or skill to land it effectively. That is the variable, not the power. Which is why I stated "if he can land that dynamite on the chin of Zhang"...

But hey, you don't "parrot" others opinions, including the opinions of those who shared the ring with Wilder. So please, let's hear more of your "patterns and discoveries", I'm really quite riveted...

[PRvazquez]

If wilder wins, it will be against grain. Sure wilder hits hard, but so does zhang., And Zhang got so much more too, so why would wilder win?
If wilder wins, you need to rip up rule book, we know nothing

You are not a fan of zhang in real life . You are only a wilder hater because he dropped Fury 4 times. Lost on his shield too. Now Fury lost hes a bum now. We don't know anything ,RIP the book apart because once you lose you ****** your whole career. See how blasphemous this was to state. Wilder hater easy to spot and detect when the man is great for boxing.

[hugh grant]

You are not a fan of zhang in real life . You are only a wilder hater because he dropped Fury 4 times. Lost on his shield too. Now Fury lost hes a bum now. We don't know anything ,RIP the book apart because once you lose you ****** your whole career. See how blasphemous this was to state. Wilder hater easy to spot and detect when the man is great for boxing.

No, I like wilder, he's a funny guy. I don't like how people thought he'd ko Josh though, when I thought Josh achieved more.
I hope to see wilder ko some more people, even after he loses to zhang. ko jarrell. Wilder needs a iron chin dude on his resume

[Pac=Duran]

He didn’t waste his career, he has made generational wealth.

Lmao absolute truth.

His career has been horrible to witness as a boxing fan, especially all the obviously fake marketing BS about him being a great fighter, but he made a **** tonne of money so fair play to him