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  • #11
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
    If the fight gets changed to a no contest, which it absolutely should, then yes the loss is undone quite literally. They no longer hold the win.

    Does Devin use PEDs? I would say that’s quite the safe bet that he does but we don’t know for sure.

    Fact of the matter is, Ryan needed PEDs to beat Haney, so the win is void.
    Will be interesting to see how they rule, Whyte disgracefully kept his W against Rivas despite testing positive.
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    • #12
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

      Will be interesting to see how they rule, Whyte disgracefully kept his W against Rivas despite testing positive.
      Good point.

      With Whyte it wasn't just PED's.
      He used tampered gloves and Hearn still defended his ass.
      Just like he defended Conor Benn.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
        Assuming that Haney, someone who works with Conti, and has always tried to use rehydration to gain significant advantage, was not himself taking a substance can he erase what Ryan did?

        It seems it philosophical issue in some respects but one must ask when a boxer loses a fight under dubious circumstances can that loss be undone? Truly undone?

        Thought?
        Haney has been weight-frauding for a long time.

        He walks around at 190 lbs and fights at lightweight lmao.

        In what universe should that chinless fraud be fighting at 130lbs? Its insane
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        • #14
          Take away the L and psychologically it can help Haney but physically and neurologically the imprint from the beating remains with him. If he believes that the only way Garcia beat him was due to PEDS, that may give him some confidence back. So it's a mixed bag of results for him if the L is removed. It's one of those "one the one hand, and on the other hand" type of opposites that he will mentally have to balance and cope with.
          Last edited by richardt; 05-25-2024, 02:37 PM.
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          • #15
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

            Will be interesting to see how they rule, Whyte disgracefully kept his W against Rivas despite testing positive.
            I think extremely likely to be changed to an NC.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

              I think extremely likely to be changed to an NC.
              I dunno man, now the WBC are involved and Garcia is claiming contamination, I think he might actually get away with it.
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              • #17
                Originally posted by Idunnoshet View Post

                Good point.

                With Whyte it wasn't just PED's.
                He used tampered gloves and Hearn still defended his ass.
                Just like he defended Conor Benn.
                Matchroom have shown a blatant disregard for fighter safety in regard to fighters testing positive several times now.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

                  I dunno man, now the WBC are involved and Garcia is claiming contamination, I think he might actually get away with it.
                  Never know do you mate.

                  Guess we’ll soon find out.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post

                    Haney has been weight-frauding for a long time.

                    He walks around at 190 lbs and fights at lightweight lmao.

                    In what universe should that chinless fraud be fighting at 130lbs? Its insane
                    yeah I feel ya! you know... My boys did not inherit my size. They are built like their mom, walking around at like 155 (my younger) and 170 (my older). What I don't get is... I trained my boys but not for the ring. If my younger was going to fight in the ring I would try to teach him to fight up... not down. Yeah you get an advantage going down in weight, but its hard on the body, you are not at your strongest... Teach a kid who walks around at 155, to go middle weight. Its better for longevity, and if you can teach someone to fight at a lower weight you can teach them to fight at a higher weight.

                    Broner had the same problem as Haney is going to have. When they had to fight at a real weight for them, they lost power. Thing is if byoub look at Haney hitting the bag, he is obviously a big kid and should not be fighting at 130, 135 or even 140. Like you say he walks around much bigger.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

                      I dunno man, now the WBC are involved and Garcia is claiming contamination, I think he might actually get away with it.
                      That is an interesting development. Asking out of curiousity: Do you have a source? Again, I believe you and am genuinely curious about how this could come to pass.

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