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  • #11
    Originally posted by Smash View Post
    the b sample matching just means there was no lab contamination in the a sample i think

    this is usually if not always the case anyway

    most know this and dont even want the b tested

    now u just have to prove intent, which is a hard thing to do, they try it a lot in courtrooms with lots of lawyers etc and get it wrong too, beyond a reasonable doubt and even on the balance of probabilities in civil trials

    then there is this 'strict liability' term, which i take to mean u pop u get banned no exceptions, but it doesnt mean that it means something else as people pop and dont get banned
    Doesn’t necessarily mean that. There still could be lab contamination (very unlikely)

    All this stuff is honestly a waste of time. There is no way to know if someone did this intentionally or not no matter how many things you test.

    All your left with is guess work. And the commission usually just takes their best guess when giving out these verdicts.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by GoldenBackHand View Post
      No one cares about this hogwash..

      Haney got annihilated LOLLLL that’s the person and the shadow that will remain..

      Ryan will continue to sky rocket..!
      Ehhh not really, because he needed PEDs to do it.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

        And the commission usually just takes their best guess when giving out these verdicts.
        best guess or brown envelopes?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

          Doesn’t necessarily mean that. There still could be lab contamination (very unlikely)

          .
          what i meant by lab contamination was that if u have a sample split into 2 parts

          One part tests positive for substance A with a test done in a certain lab at a certain time
          One part tests negative for substance A with a test done in a certain lab at a certain time

          i presume that same lab does not test both samples here

          In this case u might assume contamination from the first lab is the source i presume


          Now if both tests show up the same substance, as is normal, u would have to have the same contamination in both labs of the same substance, what are the odds of this? very very very long i would say

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          • #15
            Can we all just appreciate how... what even word to describe how B-Hop looks in that title pic?

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            • #16
              This guy is best friends with Donnie T, so you tell me if he's an honest man or not?
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              • #17
                Except that there have been warnings about many sports supplements having trace amounts of Ostarine since 2017. And the amount they have is consistent with those amounts.

                Hang on....the first sample was positive for steroids right? But then it wasn't?

                The narrative being created that "most people see Garcia as not having won the fight" by these talking head dumbbells is hilarious. No. Here is the narrative.

                Racist black boxing fans narrative is that Garcia was doped to the gills and that he beat Huggy Haney down because he acquired Hulk like strength from all the drugs. And tht Haney should be given the W.

                Racist hispanic and white boxing fans narrative is that Garcia is pure as the driven snow, it was a setup, etc.

                Intelligent non biased boxing fans....black, white, hispanic, etc, understand that the Ostarine warning has been there for years on supps. That the amounts indicate trace accidental amounts and not cheating. They know Haney came into the ring heavy or possibly heavier than Garcia. And they know that Garcia caught him and hurt him and that Haney got shook and lost.

                It's ******. And no one really likes Haney because he lost to Loma but got the fake W, he and his cringy dad talk mountains of **** and he has no power and is boring af to watch. So that makes people care even less. If Garcia had popped for steroids or clen or other **** that really could have given him an advantage, it might be different. But it was trace amounts of a sarm that doesn't do much anyway.

                The whole thing is just silliness. Garcia likely gives them a list of supps he takes and they will be shown to have trace amount of the crap, and he will be cleared.
                Last edited by Theshotyoudontsee; 05-24-2024, 01:50 PM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by PittyPat View Post
                  Can we all just appreciate how... what even word to describe how B-Hop looks in that title pic?
                  funny thing is that in the run up to the fight ryan & bhop were at each other on social media about stuff and it wasnt good stuff

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Smash View Post

                    best guess or brown envelopes?
                    Who really knows

                    Good chance of either.
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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post
                      Except that there have been warnings about many sports supplements having trace amounts of Ostarine since 2017. And the amount they have is consistent with those amounts.

                      Hang on....the first sample was positive for steroids right? But then it wasn't?

                      The narrative being created that "most people see Garcia as not having won the fight" by these talking head dumbbells is hilarious. No. Here is the narrative.

                      Racist black boxing fans narrative is that Garcia was doped to the gills and that he beat Huggy Haney down because he acquired Hulk like strength from all the drugs. And tht Haney should be given the W.

                      Racist hispanic and white boxing fans narrative is that Garcia is pure as the driven snow, it was a setup, etc.

                      Intelligent non biased boxing fans....black, white, hispanic, etc, understand that the Ostarine warning has been there for years on supps. That the amounts indicate trace accidental amounts and not cheating. They know Haney came into the ring heavy or possibly heavier than Garcia. And they know that Garcia caught him and hurt him and that Haney got shook and lost.

                      It's ******. And no one really likes Haney because he lost to Loma but got the fake W, he and his cringy dad talk mountains of **** and he has no power and is boring af to watch. So that makes people care even less. If Garcia had popped for steroids or clen or other **** that really could have given him an advantage, it might be different. But it was trace amounts of a sarm that doesn't do much anyway.

                      The whole thing is just silliness. Garcia likely gives them a list of supps he takes and they will be shown to have trace amount of the crap, and he will be cleared.
                      The first test was positive for Ostarine and Nandralone, then was later cleared of Nandaralone but not of Osterine.

                      Just because supplements are known to be contaminated with a list of trace amount of PEDs doesn’t prove anything as to whether that’s what has happened here.

                      You can make an identical argument for almost every person that’s ever failed a drug test in boxing. It don’t prove anything.

                      Garcia failed two seperate tests for Ostarine. The chances of him being cleared is very unlikely. Slap on the wrist and a backdated short ban however is most likely.

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