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  • Originally posted by Superheavyweight View Post
    That depends.. possibly.
    depends on what?

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    • Well the further tests is a start etc.. if what he claims he tested his hair and fingernails.


      The next steps are what the commission says.. and if they recognize it etc.


      Remember.. it's you who has to be consistent.

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      • Originally posted by Superheavyweight View Post
        Well the further tests is a start etc.. if what he claims he tested his hair and fingernails.


        The next steps are what the commission says.. and if they recognize it etc.


        Remember.. it's you who has to be consistent.
        the hair and finger nail test is not reliable test for these things, its not used by boxing authorities and testing agencies who say it cannot overrule urine and blood testing, they all consistently say this & yet boxers get these tests and claim it exonerates them

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        • It's reliable for long term use.. it won't override the urine test outright.. but it supports the claim that it's unintentional.. at least Baumgardner was passing a urine test after the fight etc.

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          • Originally posted by Superheavyweight View Post
            It's reliable for long term use.. it won't override the urine test outright.. but it supports the claim that it's unintentional.. at least Baumgardner was passing a urine test after the fight etc.
            Which, again, proves nothing, as previously explained.

            Hair follicle tests are not reliable, and often inaccurate, as also previously explained.

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            • Unreliable for detection or recent use? If it can be detected.. it can be detected.

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              • Originally posted by Superheavyweight View Post
                Unreliable for detection or recent use? If it can be detected.. it can be detected.
                It's unreliable in general, and often inaccurate. As previously explained.

                It's a form of data, if the commission ask for it then I guess it will help the case but it doesn't prove anything.

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                • It's more for long term use accuracy.. but you mean inaccuracy in general? If these PEDs can be detected in hair.. then it's accurate.

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                  • Originally posted by Superheavyweight View Post
                    Unreliable for detection or recent use? If it can be detected.. it can be detected.
                    "Although hair follicle testing is an accepted form of drug testing, the results of this test can be affected by a variety of factors, including environmental exposures, hair composition, use of hair products, and even hair color. Additionally, some drugs attach to the hair more easily"

                    "Hair treatments, including shampooing, coloring, relaxing, and bleaching the hair, can affect the concentration of drugs and drug metabolites detected during testing. Chemically treated hair may not be appropriate for testing, and untreated hair may need to be taken from another part of the body"

                    https://www.testing.com/tests/hair-follicle-drug-test/

                    take whatever meaning u like out of the info, there is a lot of info about stuff on the web, often contradicting each other...........

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                    • Originally posted by Superheavyweight View Post
                      It's more for long term use accuracy.. but you mean inaccuracy in general? If these PEDs can be detected in hair.. then it's accurate.
                      what if they can only be detected sometimes and not others? what if hair colour affects it and many other factors, is it still accurate?

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