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  • daggum
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    #51
    Originally posted by denium

    Fury is still levels above AJ
    based on what though? if they both retired today joshua has a better resume. they both have klitschko, whyte, and wallin. klitschko was slightly better for fury but not by much as joshua fought him in his next fight. fury has wilder but joshua has parker who is much better than wilder. joshua also has ruiz who is better than wilder in my mind, and povetkin who might be as well. then he has guys like pulev and charles martin to furys chisora. joshua has beaten 8 top 10 guys to furys 4. dont see how he is levels above. in fantasy power sure you can say hes better or would beat joshua which could be true but not in real world accomplishments

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    • Nash out
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      #52
      You can do what you did there with anyone. Ali, Tyson, Sugar Ray Robinson, Canelo, Pac, Chavez Sr, DeLa Hoya, etc, Easy to be selective and rip anyone apart. Nash out - the voice of sanity. Not out of his mind, in fact, Nash has never been more in his mind.

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      • daggum
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        #53
        Originally posted by Nash out
        You can do what you did there with anyone. Ali, Tyson, Sugar Ray Robinson, Canelo, Pac, Chavez Sr, DeLa Hoya, etc, Easy to be selective and rip anyone apart. Nash out - the voice of sanity. Not out of his mind, in fact, Nash has never been more in his mind.
        who was ripped apart? who was being selective? i mentioned all their notable wins. its simply comparing whose resume is better. i made the case that joshuas resume is better so if you think furys is better make the case why? i dont see how you can come up with a way to do it that is reasonable hence saying hes levels above joshua doesnt seem to make much sense. obviously some wins are more heavily weighted than others but im not seeing anything that is far and away better than any joshua win. the wilder win didnt hold up too well since wilders resume is very slim and he was dominated by parker who joshua beat. whyte? joshua beat him. wallin? joshua beat him. i dont think a one year younger klitschko is leaps and bounds above the one that fought joshua.

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        • _Rexy_
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          #54
          Is he retiring again? or taking the rematch??

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          • Dr. Z
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            #55
            Originally posted by daggum

            who was ripped apart? who was being selective? i mentioned all their notable wins. its simply comparing whose resume is better. i made the case that joshuas resume is better so if you think furys is better make the case why? i dont see how you can come up with a way to do it that is reasonable hence saying hes levels above joshua doesnt seem to make much sense. obviously some wins are more heavily weighted than others but im not seeing anything that is far and away better than any joshua win. the wilder win didnt hold up too well since wilders resume is very slim and he was dominated by parker who joshua beat. whyte? joshua beat him. wallin? joshua beat him. i dont think a one year younger klitschko is leaps and bounds above the one that fought joshua.
            Oh Please. Wlad was not up for Fury and sleepwalked though the match. He definitely had something to prove vs. Joshua. They both fourth an OLD Wlad, but the Wlad that AJ beat was motivated and the best an ancient Wlad could be.

            Fury's resume is chiefly Wilder who is over rated and fought a bunch of old guys and really has a terrible resume of wins.

            Parker or Ruiz would the signature win for Wilder. AJ beat them both.

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            • Lance98
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              #56
              I don't see him living long. Once he retires, he is going to go back to his old ways and grow extremely fat as f, consume lots of alcohol and take drugs. Boxing has been keeping him disciplined to some extent, but it is all going to go away as soon as he calls it quits. I actually fear for him once he quits, no joke...

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              • Dr. Z
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                #57
                Originally posted by Lance98
                I don't see him living long. Once he retires, he is going to go back to his old ways and grow extremely fat as f, consume lots of alcohol and take drugs. Boxing has been keeping him disciplined to some extent, but it is all going to go away as soon as he calls it quits. I actually fear for him once he quits, no joke...
                He is bi-polar. I agree once he quits boxing he will ballon into a 300+ pound man with very unhealthy habits. Those types tend to die young.

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                • The plunger man
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by denium

                  Fury is still levels above AJ
                  you have been dribbling over fury for years when in reality he has built his resume on hasbeens or low ranked fighters…..yiu have just seen wallin and Ngannou get demolished by joshua and yet that gave fury nightmares……that don’t sound like levels above Joshua to me and we have just usyk dominate fury and knock him from ring post to ring post and was saved by the ref.
                  fury has now been exposed as a fraud and now he has nowhere to run …..he has to either fight usyk or joshua because he cannot now defend against the chisoras of this world …..he will never be world champion and Luke knows it

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