Comments Thread For: Fury Too Flawed For All-Time Greatness, But Perfectly Flawed For Fan-Friendliness

[vinnieq]

Agree with everything you said besides the first sentence. Many fighters can still "look good" losing. Ward-Gatti, Rios-Alvado 1&2 (yeah Alvarado "looked bad" in the 3rd), etc, etc. It's all about guys who show big heart. Not many people have a bigger heart in the ring than Fury does. He's never been nailed to the canvas, and has got back up and continued strong every time he's been knocked down. If he carried himself better and was more humble everyone would love him. It's his (and his family's) out of ring antics that cause many to hate and criticize him.

ya, i thought Fury was fantastic vs Usyk. He probably could've stopped him if he had pushed more in the 6th. But he let Usyk keep coming to him to get countered.

[vinnieq]

this is where boxing writers lose me..
(and i read the whole article)
They believe they have golden access to historic "would-be" lists and who should be placed where on them. its the stuff that doesn't exist but some to be writers' expertise. BECAUSE they've never fought.

Thats the best i've seen of Fury in the ring. Everyone has said it about Usyk's weakness being the body. To see uppercuts to the body that got underneath Usyk's guard was something incredible that only a fighter with that length of reach and that high IQ could do. And he did it when he knew Usyk wouldn't counter. the uppercut head shot nearly flattened Usyk. I do think Fury will be even better in the next fight, just like he was for the Wilder rematch.

"Neither Klitschko brother had three fights that thrilling. Lennox Lewis didn’t either."
Vitali was in a huge scrap with Lennox lewis. how do you not know that one?

[MrShakeAndBake]

The organizers had too much money on Fury vs AJ for all the belts. Ref was paid, one of the judges was paid. This is business. Too much money was on Fury to win, Giving Fury a 20 second (8 count) was BS. If Usyk was getting blasted like that in the 9th round they would of stopped the fight. GUARANTEED. This is the scummy side of boxing that i hate. And why no one is talking about the ridiculous Dress Fury wore all the way to his ****, go look at it that not an ordinary boxing shorts .

Usyk was robbed of the KO in the 9th round PERIOD. If Fury too flawed, then USYK IS FLAWLESS one of the Greats!

[wrecksracer]

Fury's biggest flaw is that he read his press clippings and believed them. Like a lot of people are saying here, his career isn't over. It's too bad Emanuel Steward isn't around to show him how to effectively use his size. It's great that he can move well for a guy his size, but he shouldn't have to. He has a great jab, and should have been able to keep Usyk on the outside. Clinch when he got too close. Beating Usyk isn't out of the question if the rematch happens. He needs to tighten up his defense and take advantage of his size. He wasn't fighting smart.

[Liondw]

He's had an excellent career, a bit of greatness there you could say for sure.

He has a lot of money, gazillions, not Mayweather earnings maybe but huge paydays. I'm sure he'll want to fight one more time, only for Usyk, win, lose or draw.

Perhaps even squeeze another fight out of him, with Joshua, but he might not want to continue after this year.

[ELPacman]

I digress. You want an action packed heavyweight fight, look up Corrie Sanders vs Vitali Klitschko. That was a barn burner fight. I think it was rd2 that was nuts, but there was plenty of awesome exchanges while it lasted.

[tokon]

That coke binge/ eating binge after Wlad was his biggest downfall. Instead of improving after that Wlad win he declined. Also I think at this stage of his career he has become too rich/ too much invested as a family man instead of a hungry fighter. If the Fury after Wlad kept on improving he would pose trouble for most fighters on the ATG list because he is a real pain to deal with due to his size, boxing skills and grit. Usyk got him at the right time that is all.

And let's not sweep the PED test fail for steroids, and subsequent ban, under the carpet either, like so many seem to want to do.

[Michael]

That’s was a very good article.

[sidefx996]

All fighters look bad when.losing, that's when the "I told you all along he was overated" comments surface.. Fury can get a few wins and all will be firgiven. It's how you come back from loss

Agree with everything you said besides the first sentence. Many fighters can still "look good" losing. Ward-Gatti, Rios-Alvado 1&2 (yeah Alvarado "looked bad" in the 3rd), etc, etc. It's all about guys who show big heart. Not many people have a bigger heart in the ring than Fury does. He's never been nailed to the canvas, and has got back up and continued strong every time he's been knocked down. If he carried himself better and was more humble everyone would love him. It's his (and his family's) out of ring antics that cause many to hate and criticize him.

[sidefx996]

I'm pretty certain Mike Tyson is considered an all time great, even though he's also probably one of the most overhyped, overrated athletes in history. I guess his biggest win is against Spinks (another blown up cruiserweight), and against a 38 year old, two years retired Larry Holmes. He got sparked by Lewis and dominated twice by the five years older Holyfield (and only bit his ear in the second fight as a way out of getting knocked out again). Got destroyed by Buster Douglas and knocked out by Danny Williams and Kevin McBride. And please save me all the pRiMe MiKe tYsOn stuff. I swear I've never seen anyone whose fans make more excuses. The reality is he got taken the distance and started getting exposed FOUR TIMES prior to getting knocked out by Douglas at a ripe old age of 23. Never fought Bowe, Moorer, Foreman, Mercer, Morrison, Cooper... I feel like he would almost certainly be judged much more harshly in 2024. These days you're overrated and crap as soon as you lose a fight. In boxing anyway...