We are not aware how good Usyk is

[JakeTheBoxer]

He is beating guys that outweight him for about 30-40 lbs.

That means two things:

1. he is elite
2. Joshua, Fury etc are not elite

Elite big men beat elite small men.

This sh.it is like Crawford would move up to 175 and beat Bivol.

There is a reason other heavyweights are not on p4p lists. they are not good enough.

[Smash]

i dont think there is any doubt usyk is an 'elite' fighter

AJ is not an elite fighter, he is a very good fighter i would say
Fury i rank a bit higher than AJ

[Haka]

He is beating guys that outweight him for about 30-40 lbs.

That means two things:

1. he is elite
2. Joshua, Fury etc are not elite

Elite big men beat elite small men.

This sh.it is like Crawford would move up to 175 and beat Bivol.

There is a reason other heavyweights are not on p4p lists. they are not good enough.

No, there is diminished return in power the higher the weight goes.

[Stephankotyk]

No, there is diminished return in power the higher the weight goes.

yes F = ma

[Toffee]

He is beating guys that outweight him for about 30-40 lbs.

That means two things:

1. he is elite
2. Joshua, Fury etc are not elite

Elite big men beat elite small men.

This sh.it is like Crawford would move up to 175 and beat Bivol.

There is a reason other heavyweights are not on p4p lists. they are not good enough.

That's a p4p argument, not a 'best' argument. We're in the open division here. Their skills are not at Usyk's level, but we already knew that.

Size and strength are attributes just as much as speed and movement are.

Usyk has proven himself better than Fury and Joshua, but the fact they're bigger doesn't diminish their position any further. Overall, they're just not as good as Usyk.