Fury exposed an uppercut weakness in Usyk.

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  • automaton89
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    #11
    Originally posted by Toffee
    Everyone finds a flaw against Usyk but no-one actually manages to see it through.

    Usyk keeps finding flaws in others and sees it through.

    That's elite level boxing for you. Usyk adjusts better than anyone.
    I think you are making a big deal out of one fight. The fight was incredibly close and it was due to Fury snatching the early rounds. Even when Usyk put the beating on Fury there was no guarantee of victory. Fury had a good run too before that. Usyk himself was clearly not confident that he had won.

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    • automaton89
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      #12
      Originally posted by Smash

      not sure i want to be in the mind of a fury
      Heavens No

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      • automaton89
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        #13
        I don't blame John for being a little biased in a close fight, and even trying to keep track of the points it was hard ... Imagine being the fighter.

        I would say: too close to call.
        ​​​​If I was in furys corner. Because outside of furys disaster knockdown, it was back and forth.

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        • Toffee
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          #14
          Originally posted by automaton89

          I think you are making a big deal out of one fight. The fight was incredibly close and it was due to Fury snatching the early rounds. Even when Usyk put the beating on Fury there was no guarantee of victory. Fury had a good run too before that. Usyk himself was clearly not confident that he had won.
          It's not one fight. It's every fight (except Witherspoon).

          He's the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World. It's a big deal - he's a big deal.

          And it was only close if you scored it close (ie gave Fury most of the close rounds). By that logic the fights against Joshua were close too.

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            #15
            Originally posted by automaton89

            I think you are making a big deal out of one fight. The fight was incredibly close and it was due to Fury snatching the early rounds. Even when Usyk put the beating on Fury there was no guarantee of victory. Fury had a good run too before that. Usyk himself was clearly not confident that he had won.
            It's boxing. If it goes to a decision, you should always be prepared for the unexpected. Currently, according to the poll, 95% of us think Usyk winning was the correct call.

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              #16
              Usyk has been vulnerable to the uppercut before. Hunter landed them at will. They just had no effect. I thought it would hurt him against AJ, but he simply took it away from Joshua. Fury is a very sneaky and accurate puncher.

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              • automaton89
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                #17
                Originally posted by Toffee

                It's not one fight. It's every fight (except Witherspoon).

                He's the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World. It's a big deal - he's a big deal.

                And it was only close if you scored it close (ie gave Fury most of the close rounds). By that logic the fights against Joshua were close too.
                The fights against Joshua were not comparable at all. It was one way traffic 90% of the time. I don't think they compare to this win at all, since Joshua fought with no mojo. Who knows how they would have looked pre Ruiz failure...

                Larry holmes was asked many years ago if he thought anybody in the current era would be able to compete in the 70s and 80s and he said Anthony Joshua, that's how good Joshua was at one point.

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                • Toffee
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by automaton89

                  The fights against Joshua were not comparable at all. It was one way traffic 90% of the time. I don't think they compare to this win at all, since Joshua fought with no mojo. Who knows how they would have looked pre Ruiz failure...

                  Larry holmes was asked many years ago if he thought anybody in the current era would be able to compete in the 70s and 80s and he said Anthony Joshua, that's how good Joshua was at one point.
                  Joshua did win rounds in both fights. It wasn't 90% one way traffic. Those fights have been rewritten in history - they were great, high level fights.

                  And I don't think Joshua is any less than he was. He just ran into Usyk.

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                  • automaton89
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by 4truth

                    It's boxing. If it goes to a decision, you should always be prepared for the unexpected. Currently, according to the poll, 95% of us think Usyk winning was the correct call.
                    I think all results are possible. It was viewed as a 50/50 fight and that's exactly what we got.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Toffee

                      Joshua did win rounds in both fights. It wasn't 90% one way traffic. Those fights have been rewritten in history - they were great, high level fights.

                      And I don't think Joshua is any less than he was. He just ran into Usyk.
                      Oh please How many right hands with bad intentions did you see Joshua throw?? He threw short punches with no leverage. It looked like he was absolutely paranoid about getting hit to the body, as if usyk was some sort of Mike Tyson puncher.

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