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  • #21
    Imagine the value of a title that some complain was last held 25 years ago but is stripped from the holder within two weeks - what a parody! A title that no one won for 25 years but one fighter did it in six bouts. No, I don't blame Usyk, this is all about how meaningless the titles are. The more they are - the more meaningless they become. What matters, I will say it again, will always be the quality of your opponents and the number of your fights. With this, the people's recognition will come too and this is the third thing that matters, probably the most.

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    • #22
      How you holding up OP?

      I know you’re lowkey in pain going by all your posts in the history forum about Fury being up there with the greats.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Lupara View Post
        How you holding up OP?

        I know you’re lowkey in pain going by all your posts in the history forum about Fury being up there with the greats.
        Time waits for No man.
        In my eyes, Usyk did the deed, and pushes higher up the list. It will be interesting to see if he can repeat in October, if all parties are willing.

        As of mid-May 2024
        50 years of Heavyweights. 1974 - 2024

        (Note: Those highlighted are Active Today)

        1. Muhammad Ali
        2. Lennox Lewis
        3. Larry Holmes
        4. Mike Tyson
        5. George Foreman
        6. Oleksandr Usyk
        7. Wladimir Klitschko
        8. Tyson Fury
        9. Ken Norton
        10. Joe Frazier
        11. Evander Holyfield
        12. Anthony Joshua
        13. Deontay Wilder
        14. Ron Lyle
        15. Vitali Klitschko
        16. Rid**** Bowe
        17. Gerry Cooney
        18. Earnie Shavers
        19. Jimmy Young
        20. Joseph Parker
        21. Ike Ibeabuchi
        21. Tim Witherspoon
        23. Gerrie Coetzee
        24. Andrew Golota
        25. Michael Dokes
        26. David Tua
        27. Alexander Povetkin
        28. Mike Weaver
        29. Frank Bruno
        30. Tommy Morrison


        9 of 30 are dead
        5 of the 30 are active
        16 of the 30 are retired

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        • #24
          I heard in like 2 weeks he might be stripped of one of the belts, lol.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

            Time waits for No man.
            In my eyes, Usyk did the deed, and pushes higher up the list. It will be interesting to see if he can repeat in October, if all parties are willing.

            As of mid-May 2024
            50 years of Heavyweights. 1974 - 2024

            (Note: Those highlighted are Active Today)

            1. Muhammad Ali
            2. Lennox Lewis
            3. Larry Holmes
            4. Mike Tyson
            5. George Foreman
            6. Oleksandr Usyk
            7. Wladimir Klitschko
            8. Tyson Fury
            9. Ken Norton
            10. Joe Frazier
            11. Evander Holyfield
            12. Anthony Joshua
            13. Deontay Wilder
            14. Ron Lyle
            15. Vitali Klitschko
            16. Rid**** Bowe
            17. Gerry Cooney
            18. Earnie Shavers
            19. Jimmy Young
            20. Joseph Parker
            21. Ike Ibeabuchi
            21. Tim Witherspoon
            23. Gerrie Coetzee
            24. Andrew Golota
            25. Michael Dokes
            26. David Tua
            27. Alexander Povetkin
            28. Mike Weaver
            29. Frank Bruno
            30. Tommy Morrison


            9 of 30 are dead
            5 of the 30 are active
            16 of the 30 are retired
            Sounds like not for very long as I just read on another site that the IBF is starting the process of stripping Usyk of his title
            What a fughin disgraceful act
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            • #26
              Originally posted by famicommander View Post
              Didn't they already say that the IBF will strip their belt and give it to the winner of that upcoming garbage Hrgovic v Dubois fight?


              well dubois knocked out Usyk and Usyk avoided the rematch. Dubois should have had 3 belts.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by elfag View Post



                well dubois knocked out Usyk and Usyk avoided the rematch. Dubois should have had 3 belts.
                1. The shot was low
                2. The ref immediately called it low and Usyk picked up on it, so he didn't bother trying to get up. With a count he probably gets up anyway.
                3. Usyk won every second of the fight otherwise and stopped Dubois on a jab

                Enough with this nonsense. It was a low blow, get over it.
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                • #28
                  Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
                  I heard in like 2 weeks he might be stripped of one of the belts, lol.
                  It's a shame that Usyk won the first undisputed HW championship in 25 years and may not even get to defend it once.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

                    It's a shame that Usyk won the first undisputed HW championship in 25 years and may not even get to defend it once.
                    He won't. They're coming for blood ($$$). It was a great accomplishment to be pulled off, but these days, it's very hard to keep all the belt orgs happy and keep your belts to defend them with what they want.

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                    • #30
                      Again, who gives a f.uck about the belts? This between fury and Usyk is for legacy and for being N.1. of this era. This whole story about "undisputed" and "belts" is for casuals.

                      So what if Dubois -Hrgovic winner gets vacant IBF belt? That doesn`t make him being a legit champion.
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