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  • #41
    Originally posted by elfag View Post
    should not have been a stoppage. standing 8 was the right call when he was out on his feet and held up by the ropes from a fall.


    only valid complaint of OP is he is right it was a long as *** 8 count, def more than 8 seconds.
    Time of the count is fine, because it's always a 10 count by the ref and not a 10 second count

    That said, the fact he gave him a roadside DUI test until the bell rang was a bit much
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    • #42
      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
      I think if fury weren't so proud, and just took a knee and 18 seconds to recover he'd be ok
      he didn’t even know where his knee was let alone take one….he was literally in the twilight zone

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      • #43
        I think the ref handled things fine. When Fury clearly was held up by the corner, he called a KD. Its a judgment call, but I think a good one.

        The ref could have just called a TKO, but I think Fury was still flailing his arms out and running in some semblance of defending himself, so the ref was correct in not stopping it.

        Ref may have been slow in getting the fight back on, but this is a common issue, and I dont know of a good solution. Ref wants to make sure the fighter is good to continue, its hard to do that in 2 seconds. I do think all the "tests" are too much, but I guess you have to protect the fighter. The only alternative I guess is to just stop the fight if the ref isnt sure of the fighters condition, and that will still raise controversy.

        Last edited by sensfulviolence; 05-20-2024, 12:42 PM.

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        • #44
          It was a flash knockdown. The issue is, why was Usyk's hand raised when Fury won 114-113, or even 115-112? Morecambe Bay is in mourning because of this robbery. Nash out

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          • #45
            Just rewatched the KD. It happened with exactly 10 seconds left. So we cant quibble that the ref gave Fury too much time while checking to see if he could continue. Even if the ref only took 2 seconds (which is the rationale behind an 8 count - leaving 2 seconds for the ref to check on the fighter - which is simply not enough time), the bell would have rung immediately

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            • #46
              I think yes. Fury was hurt pretty bad, he didn`t know where he was.

              Well, he obviously recovered, but what if he didn`t? What if Usyk hurt him in the next round very very bad?

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              • #47
                There were 10 seconds left from the round. The count started right when Fury's left hand touched the ropes and he was up within the count of 10 (even in seconds which is not the rule anyway) aware of the situation - yes, badly hurt, but not inadequate (which results in the referee calling the fight). There is no point in digging again into something too obvious and easy to check: whenever a fighter is knocked down he takes the count, right? Each time that happens, the referee tells the fighter to give him his hands and check his reaction, sometimes the fighter is even asked to do a few steps. So the fighter has a 10 count to stand up, but then there is always a check of his condition. The timekeeper doesn't stop the time and the referee immediately count the seconds in a loud voice, with a movement of his arm, taking the count from the timekeeper which means that round 9 was even longer than 3 minutes - how about that? Of course, the bell came right after the referee assured himself that Fury was ok to continue and not knocked out and that is why the bell rang after that, which is the reason I am saying the round lasted longer. It didn't but the intention is not to interrupt the count and the check. That is why it all happens even after the round is over because, as you know, a fighter can not be saved by the bell.

                Now if a referee makes a highly questionable decision in favour of Usyk (Luis Pabon) it is the right one, but if not in his favour (because he applies the rules correctly) it is a bad decision? And such fans score fights and pretend to know the rules?​

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                • #48
                  If the ref stopped it, there would have been controversy, everybody would be bitching, some folks might even say that Fury could have won the fight (if he won the last 3 rounds, which he didnt).

                  The ref could have stopped it. I am glad that he didn't and we got to see the fighters decide the fight. And luckily only one judge got it wrong.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by W1LL View Post
                    I am near Liverpool and am more than happy to make this fantasy of yours a reality.
                    No fantasy at all you've taken liberties. That's 4 hours on a train for me or are you happy to meet me in the middle? Pm me we'll sort it out I'll give you my mobile number.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Nash out View Post
                      It was a flash knockdown. The issue is, why was Usyk's hand raised when Fury won 114-113, or even 115-112? Morecambe Bay is in mourning because of this robbery. Nash out
                      I bet it felt like a flash knockdown to Fury when he woke up in that corner looking up petrified at Usyk about to put his lights out. His life flashed before his eyes at that point.

                      The only robbery was the ref robbing Usyk from delivering that last punch and sending the gypsy goblin home to mordor.

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