Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury To Consider Options Instead Of Immediately Demanding Rematch

[diplo]

The rematch definitely favors Fury.

He can come in way heavier like Wilder 2 whereas Usyk is stuck fighting the same way.

How can you say right now that the "rematch definitely favours Fury"? What basis do you have for even thinking this, outside of being a fan boy?

[P to the J]

it was the damage usyk done in the 9th that truly gassed him up not anything before that. For me he got complacent after winning like 4 straight rounds with ease he became unfocused defensively, tried to play around then bammm. Almost got KTFO and was just trying to recover from that from that point on. He won the 12th though imo.

he probably thought usyk was done after round 7. Then came his 2nd wind and the extra gear kicked in. If fury didn’t received too much damage in 8th and 9th. He would have had some fight left in the championship rounds.

i get what you’re saying and I don’t disagree with much of this, it’s just that I saw Fury holding the ropes or leaning on them more than once in the first half of the fight.

He’s also a very clever guy imo, so I can only read him dropping hands etc. as not being able to keep them up.

Ofc it’s just my theory

[boxing IQ]

How can you say right now that the "rematch definitely favours Fury"? What basis do you have for even thinking this, outside of being a fan boy?

Reread my comment out loud and very slowly. Just sound it out. You can do it.

[diplo]

Reread my comment out loud and very slowly. Just sound it out. You can do it.

Yeah I got it, Dr Boxing.

"He can come in way heavier like Wilder 2 whereas Usyk is stuck fighting the same way."

This meant absolutely nothing, which is why I replied with what I did. You know for sure that Usyk is stuck fighting the same way do you? That's why I ignored it.

[boxing IQ]

Yeah I got it, Dr Boxing.

"He can come in way heavier like Wilder 2 whereas Usyk is stuck fighting the same way."

This meant absolutely nothing, which is why I replied with what I did. You know for sure that Usyk is stuck fighting the same way do you? That's why I ignored it.

Usyk has to create angles, use feints and footwork to get passed Fury's jab and reach advantage. Fury knows he can cruise hitting Usyk from the long range. 20/30+ pounds more muscle behind those shots and Usyk's in for it. Even Joshua did better against Usyk the rematch.

[diplo]

Usyk has to create angles, use feints and footwork to get passed Fury's jab and reach advantage. Fury knows he can cruise hitting Usyk from the long range. 20/30+ pounds more muscle behind those shots and Usyk's in for it. Even Joshua did better against Usyk the rematch.

Yeah but if a fatter Fury is 20/30 lbs slower, then those skills that Usyk have that you said would be even more of a killer.

Exact same as when Wilder thought he could come in heavier to KO Fury. Ended up screwing himself over.

[boxing IQ]

Yeah but if a fatter Fury is 20/30 lbs slower, then those skills that Usyk have that you said would be even more of a killer.

Exact same as when Wilder thought he could come in heavier to KO Fury. Ended up screwing himself over.

I really don't think so. Fury was huge, sharp, and mobile as hell in Wilder 2. It was the most one-sided fight of the trilogy. If that Fury showed up to fight Usyk, he'd be undisputed.

Wilder didn't carry the weight well at all. Sure, he had power but that's not natural for his frame and it exhausted him very early on.

[P to the J]

I really don't think so. Fury was huge, sharp, and mobile as hell in Wilder 2. It was the most one-sided fight of the trilogy. If that Fury showed up to fight Usyk, he'd be undisputed.

Wilder didn't carry the weight well at all. Sure, he had power but that's not natural for his frame and it exhausted him very early on.

But that’s vs Wilder

[letsgochump]

I really don't think so. Fury was huge, sharp, and mobile as hell in Wilder 2. It was the most one-sided fight of the trilogy. If that Fury showed up to fight Usyk, he'd be undisputed.

Wilder didn't carry the weight well at all. Sure, he had power but that's not natural for his frame and it exhausted him very early on.

Oh come on. Fury was not sharp and mobile in that fight. He’s visibly slower than in the first Wilder fight. Wilder is an almost immobile target with little to no defensive skill. Wilder is also a low volume one hit wonder. It’s easy to overpower him.

Fury was struggling with the tempo as it was. If he puts on weight he will not only be slower but burn more energy moving and against Usyk that’s not good. Usyk can fight forward, backward and sideways. What works against Twerkin’ Deontay will not work against Usyk.

Fury lost because Usyk is better. He took his time, figured him out and landed both hands. A TKO stoppage would have been justified.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Usyk can do what Fury did to Klitschko. Claim injury and illness, stall for 2 years and then say he's retiring.

Poetic justice.

He should do! What Fury did to Usyk was criminal.

I think Usyk will take the rematch and if he wins - he should retire then. The HW division is dangerous for him as a smaller guy. Even after the AJ fights he was hurt for a long time after. He is in against much bigger guys. Even the Chisora fight was not simple for him. He has nothing left to prove if he beats Fury for a 2nd time.