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  • Originally posted by diplo View Post

    Yes, fair point. Either way, it was a 10 second count and in any other less significant fight, could have been counted out, especially if it was not a standing 8.
    Could the fight have been stopped by the ref? Absolutely. Is it likely the ref let it continue because it was for undisputed? Very probable. But there was no way he was getting counted out, because he spent about 0 seconds on the canvas. He was on his feet, but it was ruled a knockdown because he'd been held up by the corner stanchion. Hence a mandatory 8 count and a check to see if he could continue. Yes, that end up taking longer than 10 seconds... Which happens all the time.

    For example, Joshua vs Ruiz I. Joshua knocks down Ruiz. Ruiz is up by 5. The ref continues to count to 8 while he stands. He then asks him if he's all right. Ruiz nods and the fight continues. Then Joshua goes down., waits for the count of 8 to get up and then ref checks if he's all right. Both times it takes longer than 10 seconds, but nobody is counted out for that. That's the way it always works.

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    • Originally posted by Shrap View Post
      skysports-fury-usyk-knockdown_6558968.jpg?20240519015057.jpg
      Gotta love the look of terror on the big goblin's face
      He fucked him up!

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      • "Happy New Year to all".

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        • Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post

          Could the fight have been stopped by the ref? Absolutely. Is it likely the ref let it continue because it was for undisputed? Very probable. But there was no way he was getting counted out, because he spent about 0 seconds on the canvas. He was on his feet, but it was ruled a knockdown because he'd been held up by the corner stanchion. Hence a mandatory 8 count and a check to see if he could continue. Yes, that end up taking longer than 10 seconds... Which happens all the time.

          For example, Joshua vs Ruiz I. Joshua knocks down Ruiz. Ruiz is up by 5. The ref continues to count to 8 while he stands. He then asks him if he's all right. Ruiz nods and the fight continues. Then Joshua goes down., waits for the count of 8 to get up and then ref checks if he's all right. Both times it takes longer than 10 seconds, but nobody is counted out for that. That's the way it always works.
          Yeah I know counts are never exactly on time, but just add a 'slow' count to questionable 114-113 cards always arouses su****ion, such is the ****ty world of boxing we have sometimes.

          And yeah I don't hate it, because of the magnitude of a fight. I don't want to see hasty stoppages in championship fights. Exception being Jermaine Taylor vs Froch. But even then, the ref could have let it go another few seconds. I can't remember if it was a ref stoppage or KO.
          Last edited by diplo; 05-19-2024, 07:04 AM.

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          • Originally posted by champion4ever
            Fury threw more and landed more and still lost the fight. It was a major screw job by the judges.

            Fury deserved to win that fight but I am elated that he lost. He lost two fights in a row in my opinion.

            Bullshit! Had Fury implemented the Kronk style; Then he would’ve walked Usyk down behind his jab. He would have battered him into submission.

            If you are having trouble understanding this then here’s to you. Eat shit ****head!
            He was probably having trouble because you’re writing nonsense. Compubox had Usyk clearly landing more overall punches, while throwing and landing more power punches at a higher connect rate. Punches that had Fury out on his feet and fortunate not to get stopped in the 9th.

            That you had Fury clearly winning that fight and getting robbed, in contrast to almost everyone else excluding Fury’s family shows that you have no business criticising anyone’s opinion on the fight.

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            • Originally posted by diplo View Post

              I read a report from one newspaper source (reputable boxing journo) that mentioned an 'exceedingly' long count, so I thought I'd check it out for myself. When the ring announcer resumed counting out loud from 8, it really did sound like he was getting slower. So I timed it, several times over. From 1-8 was 10 seconds. It was 10 seconds.

              However, I am always in favour of letting them go in huge title fights. And knowing that Fury can take that kind of punishment (Wilder, for example). The count was slow, but I don't hate it because it didn't change the outcome.

              Also, I'm pretty sure the ref got clocked on the chin in an undercard fight, so maybe he was still a little out of it, haha.
              Ok, so I clocked 1-8 to be about 9 seconds, but there was a lot going on with the ref coming between them and sending Usyk to the opposite corner.

              If anything, I think the count started probably a second late.

              Fury was on his feet and nodding to the ref though before the official count hit 7, and would most likely gotten stopped had the round gone on, but he still beat the clock time issues included.

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              • Some people saying fury got his tactics wrong but I don’t think so. Usyk had the better of it in close. He decided to get right in there and unload and it worked. Both fighters were fabulous. Great fight.
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                • Originally posted by diplo View Post

                  I read a report from one newspaper source (reputable boxing journo) that mentioned an 'exceedingly' long count, so I thought I'd check it out for myself. When the ring announcer resumed counting out loud from 8, it really did sound like he was getting slower. So I timed it, several times over. From 1-8 was 10 seconds. It was 10 seconds.

                  However, I am always in favour of letting them go in huge title fights. And knowing that Fury can take that kind of punishment (Wilder, for example). The count was slow, but I don't hate it because it didn't change the outcome.

                  Also, I'm pretty sure the ref got clocked on the chin in an undercard fight, so maybe he was still a little out of it, haha.
                  Oh no! Make no bones about it. I am happy that Fury lost. I am not a Tyson Fury fan. I believe he is a cheat and a dirty fighter. I'm just only stating the facts as I know them.

                  In my judgement, aside from that knockdown; I thought Fury dominated the fight with his jabs, body punching and upper cuts. For a moment there I thought Oleksander was about to wilt under the pressure.

                  However, Fury never turned up the intensity. He fought at the same measure and pace for the entire fight. Which probably cost him the decision.

                  It's funny you say salty because watch how all of his fan boys start posting from different alts since he lost.​

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                  • My question is why did fury stop going to the body? He had Usyk hurt a few times there. He put his money in the bank and stopped.
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                    • Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post

                      Could the fight have been stopped by the ref? Absolutely. Is it likely the ref let it continue because it was for undisputed? Very probable. But there was no way he was getting counted out, because he spent about 0 seconds on the canvas. He was on his feet, but it was ruled a knockdown because he'd been held up by the corner stanchion. Hence a mandatory 8 count and a check to see if he could continue. Yes, that end up taking longer than 10 seconds... Which happens all the time.

                      For example, Joshua vs Ruiz I. Joshua knocks down Ruiz. Ruiz is up by 5. The ref continues to count to 8 while he stands. He then asks him if he's all right. Ruiz nods and the fight continues. Then Joshua goes down., waits for the count of 8 to get up and then ref checks if he's all right. Both times it takes longer than 10 seconds, but nobody is counted out for that. That's the way it always works.
                      I’m glad the ref didn’t stop the fight because the remaining rounds were so compelling and ultimately it didn’t alter the fight’s outcome, but I do think the ref slightly messed up.

                      If he was giving a standing 8 count he should have done that much sooner in the barrage, given the ropes had already held him up beforehand. By the time he gave the standing 8 count, Fury was completely defenceless and moments away from getting stopped.

                      It’s a tricky one because quite often a fighter ends up getting trapped against the ropes taking damage, forcing the ref to stop the fight, whereas if the damaging punch sequence had started in the middle of the ring, the fighter would most likely have fallen and being given 10 seconds to recover. Either way, Fury was completely at the ref’s mercy and very fortunate.


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