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  • #11
    Originally posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
    Big George was never that accurate of an analyst when he was at HBO...
    but he was fun to listen to. I don't happen to agree with his take here,
    because even if Usyk is mentally tough, Fury can weaken him by leaning
    on him throughout the fight, and can often body punch him as well.
    Some are saying it will be a boring fight, which could happen... but IMO
    there will be some interesting twists and turns before Fury finally stops Usyk.
    Usyk isn't Wilder and them other boys. Usyk will step around and make Fury pay for trying to lean on him.

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    • #12
      There’s no way Fury is going to win a boxing match against Usyk. He is going to have to find a way to fight him to win this fight. Usyk has competed against some of the best amateur fighters in the world. So he has that pedigree.

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      • #13
        Stylistically Oleksandr Uysk is not Tyson Fury's toughest fight, that could possibly happen in his career right now.

        If you was playing a game, and was granted a task of creating a character to beat Tyson Fury 'That fighter would appear to be more like Anthony Joshua. The character that you would create would have more of the attributes turn up to the maximum that Joshua has as a fighter'.

        But even still? Oleksandr Uysk is superior than Tyson Fury in multiple aspects of his game 'Fury really is only greater than Usyk in mass, and possibly Fury has greater durability'.

        Almost all other attributes and bars on Uysk's character are higher than Tyson Fury's fighting character.

        Tyson Fury is not pound for pound the best athlete in this match up, Fury is not a super heavyweight version of Uysk 'Stylistically I don't regard Fury and Uysk as similar fighters, I have no idea why? The media has attempted to convinced people that they are alike'.

        In reality Oleksandr Uysk is more similar to Anthony Joshua 'Outside of the difference in power and brute strength, both Joshua and Uysk are fundamentally solid, technical sound fighters who seek to dominated at mid to long range'.

        Note: I believe Oleksandr Uysk is the best athlete in the match up pound for pound, he is the more experienced fighter at World and Elite level and skill for skill he is the superior fighter in multiple aspects of his game. Fury does have a greater inside game 'But Fury's inside game is still not to a all-time great level. This is a factor that people are passing over, Fury may have the ability to fight on the inside, but is his game there that great? Fury is clumsy on the inside, and produces unforced errors whenever he is engaged in that type of action'.

        I have always stated that Tyson Fury is a complete fighter, meaning that he has the ability to fight in all area's 'But that does not mean he is a elite level fighter in all area's of boxing. Skill for skill Fury's inside game, is I would say in and around High European level'.

        Derek Chisora skill for skill technically has a greater inside game than Tyson Fury 'But Chisora is not a complete fighter like Tyson Fury'.

        Tyson Fury is fighting in a era, where the Heavyweight Division seems to have a lack of fighters 'Who have a developed inside game'. In that regard this era has technically in some area's of the sport gone backwards'.

        Anthony Joshua only recently in his career, has he started to developed 'Certain inside game skills, such as being able to wrestle on the inside and disrupt his opponents work. The first and one of the only clinches initiated in the Francis Ngannou vs Anthony Joshua fight, was executed by Joshua'.

        I have stated that the most impressive part of Anthony Joshua's performance vs Francis Ngannou 'Was that he initiated the clinch, locked Ngannou up on the inside. And Ngannou the mighty mixed martial arts fighter, who everyone said would just bull Joshua on the inside? That fighter could do absolutely nothing about it'.

        It was Joshua's first fight working with Derek James 'Were I saw him being able to wrestle on the inside. Joshua for the first time in his career against Franklin actually fought a big man style fight, which was a aspect of his performance that his critics and people who don't really understand boxing disregarded to highlight'.

        So to conclude: I don't regard Oleksandr Uysk as Tyson Fury's kryptonite, Uysk is not stylistically the most difficult fight that could happen in the career of Tyson Fury right now. But Uysk is still stylistically a difficult fight for Fury, because? Uysk is superior to Fury in the area's which he seems to be relying upon a lot at this stage of his career i.e Fury was able to fight his way back into the Ngannou fight after the knock-down, because Fury had a by far superior mid to long range game than Ngannou.

        From the very moment Francis Ngannou decked Tyson Fury 'Fury switch up his game, and just used his mid to long range game'.

        Oleksandr Uysk's mid to long range game is proven many times over in his career to a very high level 'Anthony Joshua is the most competent proven mid to long range boxer, in the Heavyweight Division outside of both Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Uysk. Joshua is a Olympic Champion, statistically the most experienced and proven Heavyweight at World and Elite level'.

        There is a serious debate, coming into this fight 'That Oleksandr Uysk has already beaten a superior Super Heavyweight to Tyson Fury twice back to back in Anthony Joshua'.

        We can use that game analogy again, to compare Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua 'Joshua's fighting character has more bars than Tyson Fury'.

        Joshua's has superior power, brute strength, superior combination punch ability, comparable if not greater levels of endurance which I have statistically proven, and a more solid boxing Fundamental game.

        Has Oleksandr Uysk already overcome and beaten his most difficult stylistic challenge at Heavyweight? Usyk in my opinion has continually been fighting Heavyweights fighters who have all been stylistically difficult challenges for him.

        One of the last solid version's of Derek Chisora, Anthony Joshua twice back to back, Daniel Dubois 'Those are all fighters stylistically who have the attributes to challenge Uysk'.

        Tyson Fury in comparison in his career, has not been challenging himself in the same manner 'Wilder, Whyte, Chisora'. They are all fighters really who are stylistically easier fights for Tyson Fury.

        None of those fighters are great boxers skill for skill 'And to challenge Tyson Fury, one of the most important attributes is a skill for skill game. Fighters need have a developed mid to long range game, in order to compete with Tyson Fury'.

        Oleksandr Uysk's route to this Undisputed title fight, on a fight by fight basis 'Has not been easy, the path has not been a walk in the park'.

        And all that preparation and experience is in my opinion only going to support Uysk's efforts vs Tyson Fury etc.



        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-16-2024, 04:48 PM.
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        • #14
          Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
          Big George was never that accurate of an analyst when he was at HBO...
          but he was fun to listen to. I don't happen to agree with his take here,
          because even if Usyk is mentally tough, Fury can weaken him by leaning
          on him throughout the fight, and can often body punch him as well.
          Some are saying it will be a boring fight, which could happen... but IMO
          there will be some interesting twists and turns before Fury finally stops Usyk.​

          Originally posted by Poopdick View Post

          Usyk isn't Wilder and them other boys. Usyk will step around and make Fury pay for trying to lean on him.
          Wilder is a weak example of current HWs, since he never really learned to box... and Usyk is a skilled boxer.
          So anything can happen. I believe Fury will overcome the smaller Usyk and likely stop him on body shots by
          the mid/late rounds. Just my 37 cents worth, that's all... but I respect all respectful opinions of upcoming matches.
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          • #15
            Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
            There’s no way Fury is going to win a boxing match against Usyk. He is going to have to find a way to fight him to win this fight. Usyk has competed against some of the best amateur fighters in the world. So he has that pedigree.
            Fury doesn’t have to box. Not all the time. He can use his size when he wants, he can box when he wants. He’s going to be able to wrap up and lean on Usyk, especially as time goes on.
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            • #16
              Originally posted by Joe Beamish View Post

              Fury doesn’t have to box. Not all the time. He can use his size when he wants, he can box when he wants. He’s going to be able to wrap up and lean on Usyk, especially as time goes on.
              I agree. The referee is going to be the most important person in the ring that night. If Fury is allowed to bend the rules then Usyk can’t win.

              However, If the referee starts deducting two points at a time from Fury every time he fouls and then warns him about the very strong possibility of a disqualification.

              Then maybe and then just maybe; We might have an even playing field for once.
              Last edited by champion4ever; 05-17-2024, 04:52 AM.

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              • #17
                “Years ago, when I fought Muhammad Ali, I could’ve won every round, but I had it put in my mind, ‘I’m gonna knock out this guy who’s never been knocked out before …’” Foreman told BoxingScene on Wednesday.

                Sure, George. But you were the Deontay Wilder of the 70s and not known for your skills.

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